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[–] hactar42@lemmy.world 149 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thanks. I have so many questions about some of these. Cut of the stone, king's evil, Planet, rising of the lights, teeth... I'm mostly curious what king's evil is in this context. Gonna go look Edit: per the link it's scrofula.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 109 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 92 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“People called cancer the wolf, because it 'ate up' the person.” But this wasn't just a linguistic quirk. The idea was actually translated into practice. “Some doctors would even apply raw meat to a cancerous ulcer, so that the wolf could feast on that for a while instead of 'eating' the patient.

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[–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I could see how people 400 years ago could think that makes sense.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago

"There are two wolves inside of you. I'm afraid it's terminal."

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Classic comedy duo, well until cancer went through the divorce...

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 73 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Made away themselves.

Ah British dancing around the point terms.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 31 points 2 weeks ago

We’d still say “done away with themself”.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

"Unalive" is the current dance. Euphemism isn't new.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Just trying to avoid the YouTube censors

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 57 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Kill'd by several accidents

When the universe is out to get you, but you survive the first accident

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Rasputin syndrome

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[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"My teeth are killing me" meant something pretty different back then.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 weeks ago

"Teeth" actually meant "a child who's still teething." As with "chrisomes and infants," so many little ones died that often they were categorized by age rather than a specific cause. Probably the only reason to specify "overlaid, and starved at nurse" would be to blame and punish the wet-nurse.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 2 weeks ago

So aggravating to not be able to sort by columns

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 71 points 2 weeks ago

Scary:

"Dying of planet" was a term used in the 17th and 18th centuries to describe a sudden and severe illness or paralysis that was attributed to astrology and the influence of malevolent planets. People who died from "planet" exhibited symptoms similar to strokes, heart attacks, and aneurysms. At the time, people who picked up bodies for burial often knew little about the cause of death. Other causes of death listed in The Diseases, and Casualties this year being 1632 included "affrighted" and "made away themselves". -Via Overview.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 38 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)
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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

"Killed by several accidents."

lol.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

::: spoiler beware!

tf is King's Evil?

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[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. I would choose wolves over cancer
  2. I suspect it means ear infections, but I choose to believe there was a big kettledrum accident that year
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[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 35 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Over-laid sounds like a good way to go.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You guys are all laughing about 'planet,' but I'll have you know my uncle died of a cerebral hemorrhage when Neptune hit him on the back of the head. And we all thought it was just a glancing blow, but two days later, he dropped dead right in the middle of the supermarket.

You won't laugh so hard when it happens to someone you care about.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Imagine being proudly offed by Pluto and then they make it not a planet any more.

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[–] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Chrisomes : died while under a month old.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 weeks ago

Not sure, but I'm guessing part of the reason to specify the difference between "infants" and "Chrisomes" (baptized babies) might be to say where they'd be buried/where their souls would go.

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[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 weeks ago

oh, cool - RFKs suggested DSM just dropped!

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Only 7 murders? The population of London was apparently about 400,000 back then so that's less than half the murder rate of present-day New York City (which is considered a relatively safe city). I don't think that can be right...

1632 London: 7 / 400,000 = 17.5 murders per million people

2023 New York: 312 / 8,258,000 = 37.8 murders per million people

[–] Plagiatus@lemmy.world 71 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

a relatively safe city [...] 37.8 murders per million

Ignoring that in 1632 it might've been easier for murder to go undetected, here are the numbers of present day London. It's about 13.1 mpm, even lower than in 1632, about a third of present day New York.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/862984/murders-in-london/

America is not really a shining example when it comes to those things...

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

New York's murder rate (and the overall murder rate in the USA) is shaped by a history of race relations which is quite different from London's. A white person in New York is much less likely (and conversely a black or Hispanic person is much more likely) to be murdered than the overall murder rate for the city might lead someone to think.

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[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Spelling "Lunatic" as "Lunatique" now. Shout out to the poor folks that just died in the street and starved. Surprised it's only 6.

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[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Rising of the lights?

...found it

Rising of the lights was an illness or obstructive condition of the larynx, trachea or lungs, possibly croup. It was a common entry on bills of mortality in the 17th century.[1][2] Lights in this case referred to the lungs.[3]

[–] qx128@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I saw this list on hidden killers of the Tudor home (even though this list is post-Tudor era). The specifically spoke about the 'teeth' part.

Basically what that mean was that a variety of tooth decay and oral issues pertaining to the teeth. This was an era that first saw a large consumption of sugar (which as you know LOVES to fuck with teeth) by wealthier people and coupled with a nonexistent oral hygiene practice and dentistry. Basically people's teeth would decay and cause gum disease or simply a shitload of pain that even the painful teeth pulling couldn't fully fix.

One thing that you must remember is that prior to widespread sugar availability most people's teeth were remarkably fine throughout life as people's diets didn't contain enough crap that will mess your teeth up. Of course this isn't to say that it was perfect. Braces would have been a good thing to have for many people and a simple toothbrush with half decent toothpaste would have been a very welcomed thing.

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[–] lemmur@szmer.info 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Planet

wtf were they smoking in London?

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I never thought to combine deaths by cancer and by wolves to save space or because they’re similar enough. I can’t comprehend why they thought it was a good idea either.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago

It wasn't cancer cancer, it was a big crab that lived in the Thames that hung out with a wolf.

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 19 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That one guy that died of Sciatica 😣

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)
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[–] Famko@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

King's Evil sounds like they were executed to me, but I have no clue what it could actually mean.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Scrofula.

Anyone checking for a actual executions should look about 3/4 down the first column.

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[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 14 points 2 weeks ago

Dying of piles sounds awful. Like, it would have been nice to marathon Ye Olde Stranger Things or Squide Game without having your arse falling to pieces on your ~~deathbed~~ deathsofa.

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