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Summary

President Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden, reversing his prior stance against using executive clemency.

The pardon covers Hunter’s federal gun conviction and tax evasion guilty plea, sparking political controversy.

Biden cited political attacks and a “miscarriage of justice” as reasons for his decision, emphasizing his son’s recovery from addiction and the targeting of his family.

Critics argue the move undermines the judicial process, while supporters view it as within Biden’s constitutional powers.

This decision shields Hunter from potential prison time as Biden nears the end of his presidency.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Is this just a distraction from the incoming administration refusing to sign ethics statements they signed into law, or avoiding background checks for sensitive government positions

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 19 hours ago

The trolls are getting kicked out of Bluesky and landing here lol

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Stop with the whataboutism, this is the political class acting in its own interest at no benefit to any of us. If anything this discredits the legal system and is to our detriment.

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[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

On the one hand this is pretty hypocritical. On the other hand I probably would do the same in his position given that trump plans to weaponize the Justice department. Not great but this is the state our country is in now.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

On the one hand this is pretty hypocritical. On the other hand I probably would do the same in his position given that trump plans to weaponize the Justice department.

Seriously. Here's the scenario I put myself in:

  • I'm 82 years old
  • Three close family members, including my first wife and two of my children, have died.
  • I'm being succeeded by someone who has promised to leverage government agencies to attack his political enemies
  • My son has symbolically become one of those enemies
  • I have choices:

 

  • I can wait to see whether my successor does some third world shit to him while he's in prison and be powerless to stop it if he does

OR

  • I can use my current powers to free him, saving him from that fate, and getting more time with my remaining son during my final few years of life.

Fuck I know what choice I'm making.

I understand every single argument about why he shouldn't have done it. I agree with some of them. Still no problem for me to put myself in a state of mind where I do the exact same thing.

Go ahead and come at me if you want, folks. I understand, but I won't be changing my mind. If I'm 82 years old, my son stands a good chance of being abused while in a jail cell after I retire, and I can both avoid that plus also get an extra year+ with my son before I die, with nothing more required than expressing my wish for him to be released, I'm doing it.

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can understand this point of view.

But I can also condemn them for doing it.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 22 hours ago

Fair enough. 🙂

I'm like a notch below you on that. I won't condemn him, but I acknowledge there are valid reasons he should not have done it.

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Leonard Peltier? Edward Snowden?

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not a great look...but let's be frank. Biden was pushed out of a race he wanted, during a presidency that wasn't all that bad considering what came before. The Dems that wanted him out are now all either infighting, or saying everything is fine and they'll definitely win in four years. Biden's in the last weeks of his job, and when he's lost so much already he probably just wants to ensure his family are safe.

After decades of public service, and being committed to handing power over to someone that's demonized what's left of his family, I'm all for Biden using his last week or two to protect his family and enjoy retirement.

[–] Yodan@lemm.ee 44 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I can't stand this "not a good look" talk when democrats have to basically be squeaky cleak that they can't even own a peanut farm or swear and yet 10 years into the "grab them by the pussy" guy who makes fun of disabled people, women, calls everyone names including his own party... Nobody bats an eyelash. I don't care if Joe Biden lied for his son at this point, Donald pardoned and will continue to pardon dozens of family and staff and insurrectionists. It's ok for Trump to lie about not knowing project 2025 and then immediately hire everyone involved with it days later... But Biden can't lie once. Got it.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (44 children)

Good. I hope the democrats play just as dirty and hard as the republicans going forward. We cannot be civil with barbarians.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I would also like them to do that too, but I would prefer they do it for something other than nepotism.

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[–] berno@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Democrats are twisting this as a great thing now after Biden said he would never do this, what a total bunch of hypocrites.

Once again more "it's okay when our side does it" from them.

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[–] 01011@monero.town 41 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Remember guys, it's not corruption when it's legal...

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[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 325 points 1 day ago (42 children)

The prior president pardoned a family member who was blackmailing and raping people, then appointed the same criminal to be ambassador to France. I don't give a fuck what President Biden does now. We're a country of criminals and oligarchs now.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Just like Harris going to Hawaii immediately after her loss, this sends a clear message.

"I don't give a fuck. This was always about personal power and wealth."

Just incase anyone thought the DNC would actually use their defeat as a reason to soul search about how their neoliberal policies no longer serve the people and that's why people aren't coming out to vote.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Harris was in Hawaii 2 weeks after losing the election. She was gone for less than a week. Why is it bad to want to decompress for half a heartbeat after a crazy campaign?

And as for Hunter. Trump has packed the federal law enforcement agencies with corrupt MAGA nuts who want political retribution. Hunter will not be treated fairly.

Moreover, pardoning him highlights the conflict of interest that the GOP gladly ignored with Trump’s first term. If the GOP wants to prevent presidents from pardoning people they’re personally associated with, the Dems will happily join that vote.

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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't understand, why her being in Hawaii means she doesn't give a fuck ?

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Seriously. Everyone involved was exhausted and there was nothing else for them to do except rest and recover. If they’d won, they’d still be going at it preparing to enter office while Trump went to Mar a Lago and tweeted.

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