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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I'm torn.

It's bad to pardon family, but at the same time, I'd fully support pardoning a random person who had a no-prison plea deal the judge threw out after the defendant admitted guilt.

Especially when the crime that resulted in a jail time sentence is one that's almost exclusively used as an add-on for violent offenders. Any person with a medical Marijuana card and a gun or who ate half a gummy at a friend's house in a state where it's legal while their gun was locked in a safe at home has committed the same crime.

But it also looks bad for him to pardon his son, and Trump's sycophants will absolutely cling to this.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How it looks is beside the point. If it's moral then it's moral, and people who are looking at it need to deal with it. As for what Trump's sycophants will do, they're going to do crazy s*** anyway.

When judges ignore plea deals, they are asking for people to strip them of power. That's what happened here, the judge deserved what they got. If you can't find justice in the courts, then to hell with the courts.

Noone is criticizing Biden for pardoning his son. Theyre criticizing him for ONLY pardoning his son and doing jack shit besides that. Im happy that his son has someone willing to use the system to help him, i wish the rest of you did too.

[–] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I agree with you that the sentencing was incredibly unjust and clearly politically motivated. I'm just incredibly frustrated that Biden is not doing anything that's useful to Americans during his last few months in office.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unfortunately Biden is known for packing up the slavery prisons with people who in any just country shouldn't be there and keeping them there for the profits of corpos. In this light him pardoning his son is even worse than just nepotistic abuse of power.

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[–] EvilZ@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Let's face it for elites.... They are not American, they are Elites that use America as their playground ... The Biden tanked the Harris campaign out of spite and don't care who gets in as it doesn't really affect them.

These are extremely rich people..... Unless we are in Red China, they have nothing to fear

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[–] auzy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For civilians, posting revenge porn like mtg did during congressional hearings would be highly illegal and any judge would take that into consideration. Judges are a lot more lenient than people think and he broke the law, but he is the only one who ever had Congress use revenge porn on...

It is also crazy they spent millions investigating Hunter Biden because they found nothing on Biden himself

If MTG didn't fiddle herself over Hunter every night and post his dick pics everywhere, sure, Biden shouldnt have done it

But, they did.

The harsh reality is, that Biden should be able to sue for damages, but he can't do that

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[–] denial@feddit.org 25 points 2 days ago (6 children)

In the end, if people aren't willing to vote against fascism, you cannot prevent it by establishing new rules (or in this case breaking the old ones).

[–] inv3r510n@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

You can’t vote your way out of fascism but you can certainly vote your way into it.

Maybe one of these days the liberals will fucking learn from history.

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[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I’m not saying it was right, but Hunter did get it rough solely because of who his dad was.

I’m not saying he didn’t deserve it, only that it wouldn’t have happened otherwise.

I don’t know that this is worth making a fuss over.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hunter did get it rough solely because of who his dad was.

If you lined up all the crack heads in America and ranked them "has it the most rough" to "least rough", I would challenge you to find 1% who have it better than Hunter.

[–] AnneVolin@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you lined up all the crack heads in America and ranked them “has it the most rough” to “least rough”, I would challenge you to find 1% who have it better than Hunter.

Exactly. What crackhead is getting off on a gun possession? That's a slam dunk for a DA to put numbers on the board.

Libs just have their heads up their asses. Legalities around guns + drugs have been the corner stone of state suppression for decades. Libs love screaming about freeing their favorite rapper or how Regan is a hypocrite that passed gun control in CA, but suddenly pretend it's not typical when their guy's son catches a case.

My big issue with it is basically summed up by this meme. By doing this he's established that he's willing to break promises and take advantage of systems that republicans are abusing, but only when it benefits him personally. He could executive order a bunch of different things, and go on a pardon spree, but what he does with his power is just to pardon his son. Unlike the rest of us, a Trump presidency will basically not affect him at all, and the little it would/did has to do with his son and he doesn't even have to deal with that.

Do I want his son in prison? No, not really. But considering he all but lied about being a 1 term president and refused to step down making a primary impossible, which at least contributed to the dems loss, it's an extra slap in the face that the only real consequence he had to face is able to be erased by a stroke of his pen, and yet he seems to be doing nothing to protect or help anyone else who has been hurt by his decisions. I don't think Hunter should suffer because of who his dad is, but his dad is making (and has made) us all suffer and is unwilling to do anything about it.

I'm not making a fuss about it, but if I was, it'd not be about the pardon, it'd be about how his big move as a lame duck with immunity confirmed by the Supreme Court is to get his son out of prison and watch everyone else suffer.

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[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (12 children)

When in the fucking history of the USA has this shithole fought against fascism?

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[–] SaintWacko@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I really can't blame him. If I were Biden, I would not want my child in a justice system controlled by Trump and his cronies

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