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[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago

I’ve spent boatloads more time watching football than playing football, too.

Also, with Rainbow 6: Siege, there’s so many ways to play the game that I love watching videos to get ideas for new strategies to try.

Lastly, contrary to popular belief, a lot of games actually require thinking about what you’re doing. Time spent playing is not really time spent spacing out so I will happily watch videos about a game I like to play when I don’t have the energy to actually focus on playing them.

[–] Ardyssian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

I don't watch streams, but I do watch a lot of Let's Plays (i.e. Materwelonz, WoolieVersus). Sometimes to watch them play games that I normally wouldn't, sometimes to listen to their insights at certain hype points in games I previously played, and usually due to loneliness (i.e. parasocial relationships).

Regarding the last point, it also tends to be the reason I gravitate towards games with strong story, or MMOs. Feeling like I belong to a community keeps the loneliness at bay. Outside of games, I like to be in crowded areas, though not necessarily interacting with anyone.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 38 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Makes enough sense, as goofy as it sounds.

  1. No Money. - Videos let me watch games that aren't worth buying to me along with letting me parse games that look fun enough to buy.
  2. No Time. - Videos can be put on during other chores or tasks, left on as background noise during times where I would absolutely not have enough time to actually play a game.
  3. Skill Issue. - No matter how good I want to be, I'm ultimately just kinda ok at games. Watching higher level players can be a way for me to learn tips and tricks to improve, or they can be a way for me to experience difficulty levels of the game I will never realistically achieve on my own.
[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

You forgot: The videos often have absurd challenges that most gamers would never try, like for example trying to beat Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire with only a physical attacking Abra.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Arguably that falls under both 2 and 3, but yeah entirely unique challenges or play modes is another reason to watch.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago

Or counting how many people are employed in Skyrim.

[–] ptitfred@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Amen to that!

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I watch games about the game in gaming, but I also watch games about my game when I'm not gaming. Therefore by definition my gaming will be less than my watching gaming.

[–] dragonfucker 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

What if gaming time is 4 hours, you spend 3/4 of gaming time playing games, and you watch gaming videos for one hour outside gaming time?

[–] Master@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

You have to watch the video of the game you are playing in order to play the game you are playing. By definition... (if you are video gaming) all bets are off for boardgamers!

[–] zipsglacier@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Board gamers watch videos about board games too!

[–] Master@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

The point is if you are video gaming you are literally watching a video of yourself playing the game. That is why it is "video"gaming...

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

What if gaming time is 4 hours

I remember not having kids...

Now gaming time, if I'm lucky, is like 30 mins a week. Much of that spent patching and remembering wtf I was doing last time I played.

Not counting playing with them, at least. Though they spend more time watching Minecraft videos than playing Minecraft, so there's that.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 27 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Where's "New report claims sports fans spend more time watching sport / videos about sport than playing sport".

This isn't some new, crazy, hard to understand concept.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

I'll be honest I find it hard to understand for sports as well.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

My wife likes YouTubers but isn't a gamer. If I'm doing stuff with them I'm more likely to pick a video about games than a game.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

My wife thought she was the same until suddenly it clicked and she realized she is in fact a gamer

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

We called my wife "fake gamer girl" for a while because we made a group chat back in 2020 with everyone in it to coordinate online games. They were there because she would play Among Us or Jack Box with us. It was very tongue in cheek. To be honest, they may have even said it themselves for the first time lol.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

Nice. My partner is more of a movie person and I'm more a games person, so I'll watch movies with her almost as a favour, and she'll return it by playing games with me lol.

There's an art to picking a movie or game for a choosie person, and we've both got pretty good at predicting eachothers' tastes in media.

[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This thread got me thinking Lemmy needs a better "find a co-op buddy" community for games in general. If it's here already, could use better marketing.

Not sum'm I suffer from, but I want to see y'all living your best lives too. A good homie can make or break a game run.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

I miss r/summonsign and whatever the one for elden ring was. From Soft co-op is the best part of their games.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

All of my little cousins and nephews watch streamers. To them it's more fun to watch someone play than to play most times. They don't like dealing with challenging games all the time, they really just want to have fun. These kids do play games but they watch more than me so I tried watching some streamers and I get it. When I was growing up we had systems with multiple controller ports and no online. Online gaming was PC only until I went to college and console online took off. But growing up you had to bring your friends or cousins to play some Mario Kart 64. That was way different than playing with randoms online. Streamers kinda brings that connection back.

[–] Venator 6 points 18 hours ago

Streamers kinda brings that connection back

In a parasocial kinda way...?

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (6 children)

people want to play with friends, and with gaming getting lonelier, i think people are seeking the parasocial relationships on streaming sites.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 34 points 23 hours ago

In other stunning news, researchers find people who like sports spend more time watching it than playing it.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Never watched a stream, never really understood the motivation. But i also don't consume social media (besides lemmy) or such and am generally anti-social, so that might be that. I would be infuriated if those people wouldn't do what I would do. Also the chat is... Annoying.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The wisdom of streams is simple.

I do shit with my life other than gaming. If I want to experience a cool game without spending the money and without investing the time to get good at the game, it's a no-brainer to watch a playthrough done by a professional gamer and a professional live commentator like the best streamers are.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 12 hours ago

That makes sense. As someone who never saw the appeal in watching sports, this is probably the same league. But somehow it's like watching porn when one isn't in the mood for actual sex 😁

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

Never really understood watching it when playing is also very little effort. It's not football.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

for me it's mostly because I am too depressed and unmotivated to get out of bed and go sit in front of the console/PC but not depressed enough to put the dumb addictive black rectangle down

(i am taking medication i hope this changes)

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[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 4 points 15 hours ago

Interesting that you see a difference between the two. Football also does not require incredible effort to play, still a lot of people only watch it.

[–] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm definitely one of those people, but I work in an office where they let us watch shit on our phones as long as the work still gets done. A hell of a lot easier to watch YT videos than to try to sneak an Xbox S into a cubicle farm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Might wanna contemplate about nvidias geforce now 😁

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't use it, but I'm still salty that publishers had a fit about that. It's honestly none of their fucking business where you run your games.

I'm not investing in a cloud only platform like Google's abandoned attempt, so the only hope is a hybrid like Geforce Now.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's an okay-ish solution for people who don't wanna invest in a pricey pc or that just wanna game from their potato thinclient. No mods kills it for me personally.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A guy at work used to use a cloud service called Shadow PC.

They'd basically rent a gaming PC out and he'd just torrent them right on to the cloud machine. Pretty sure mods would have worked there.

It felt a touch laggy with a mouse, but a controller would probably have been just fine. It's a shame there's a disconnect between what gamers want (a gaming PC that's just somewhere else) and what providers want (a walled garden).

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

True. Those cloud-services allow for mods. But still too laggy, too expensive, too much hassle. And in the end you own nothing again. Like car leasing 😑

But gf now is much cheaper, but therefore has those downsides. But yes. Just a pc somewhere else

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[–] RealFunAtParties@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I would say this isn't me, but I started playing Dwarf Fortress lately and have probably been watching an hour of tutorials for every 30 minutes I play at this point. 😅

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Expensive as the games are these days you gotta do copious amounts of research before plunking down those bennies

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[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 14 hours ago
[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

That's partly because it's now more important to know what you're doing, than figuring out what you're doing, or just enjoying the fight. Unless you're willing to just tank insults while playing, and rebuild and retry with constant leavers, you have to study. Usually people try, but often they sit back and give in to "experiencing" games through video instead.

WoW for example has almost no tolerance for flawed teammates anywhere anymore, I've seen countless groups that would rather sit outside a dungeon for hours, than be inside it for 15 minutes too long.

And people no longer think "if you want good teammates, you have to build a team", they instead think that everyone who joins the random matchmaker has a responsibility to be good. It's rude to be bad at World of Warcraft.

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