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Windows 11 market share falls despite Microsoft ad blitz | Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market (www.theregister.com)

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Despite Microsoft's push to get customers onto Windows 11, growth in the market share of the software giant's latest operating system has stalled, while Windows 10 has made modest gains, according to fresh figures from Statcounter.

This is not the news Microsoft wanted to hear. After half a year of growth, the line for Windows 11 global desktop market share has taken a slight downturn, according to the website usage monitor, going from 35.6 percent in October to 34.9 percent in November. Windows 10, on the other hand, managed to grow its share of that market by just under a percentage point to 61.8 percent.

The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade. The stats also revealed a small drop in the market share of its Edge browser, despite relentlessly plugging the application in the operating system.

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[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The dip in usage comes just as Microsoft has been forcing full-screen ads onto the machines of customers running Windows 10 to encourage them to upgrade.

Yeah no shit! When my computer does full-screen, disruptive things that I didn't tell it to do, I figure out how to remove that malware. I've been off Windows at home for about a month now, thanks Linux Mint! Getting some games to work has been challenging, but most things have just worked and quite a few work much better!

Performance is up overall, and my confidence that my computer isn't running a bunch of secret ad and spy ware is way up. Hardware like my gamepad and microphone would randomly disconnect and have issues on Windows, all working perfectly now.

Unfortunately I'm still deep in MS land for work, but there's almost a comedic quality to it. Everything's very slow, everyone has constant issues with Teams, or Office online, or Dynamics, or copilot shoving it's tendrils into everything. Watching businesses struggle to keep operating in the face of Microsoft's inadequacy is like being a mechanic watching a motor grind to a halt because the owner/manufacturer replaced all the oil with syrup.

Like yes, it's my problem to fix, but I'm just glad it's not my car.

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

Welcome fellow minter. Try Steam / Proton... simple and seemless for a huge chunk of games.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

I've been apprehensive to all kinds of adverts for years, I guess the general population is catching up to me on this trend.

[–] jpablo68@infosec.pub 29 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The main problem is that Win11 can only run in special hardware and Microsoft can pry out my potato computer from my cold, dead hands. I won't change my hardware to update my OS.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 11 points 2 hours ago

Do it the other way, change your OS! Embrace the pinguin!

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe -3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago) (1 children)

Special hardware meaning a TPM chip to encrypt your data? Why would they force you to use 10 year old tech, way too new!

Remember they aren't forcing you to update, they just are telling you they won't support your old-ass shit :)

[–] smallZe13@lemmy.world 7 points 51 minutes ago

I built my computer new 7 years ago, and it doesn't support windows 11. Still works like a charm, at least for my use case. There's no reason for me to spend the 1000 to update it. Easier to move to linux when windows 10 hits EOL.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The beating will continue until morale increases. - Microsoft PR

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

When you "have" to keep making new versions to satisfy market "demand" in the "free" market.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago

I wonder if the stats will rise considerably during 2025 with all the business and enterprise environment switching after delaying the upgrade for a few years. We certainly have to do that at work.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Wellp..... This morning I was ready to go to work and have a few meetings but thanks to windows 11 inconvenient update service now I can just come here to complain.

[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 39 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well, Microsoft said way back when that "Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows" so a lot of enterprise went to it. To this day I'm dealing with vendors that have a certified "Windows 10-only" solution. Another funny one is stuff like Ford's FDRS software still only officially supports Windows 10 Pro.

Platform changes and all that are fine, but when Microsoft says basically "This is gonna be your LTS forever" and then bails on it, shit like this is no surprise at all.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I'll admit to some 'asterisk' to that.

So a developer evangelist said "because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10". So the media ran with the most intuitive interpretation of that language and expanded on it and declared that Microsoft was basically changing to a rolling release model. Note that folks say "he meant latest, not last".

Meanwhile, Microsoft's formal lifecycle statement said, from the onset, that it wasn't going to be supported in 10 years.

However, Microsoft did nothing to clarify the rampant coverage. So I'm still on the side of "the popular impression among people was eternally supported rolling release". Just acknowledging that, formally, they did designate 10 the same way they had designated previous versions.

[–] Shadywack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you fully, and that's my main point. Their own forums were full of the question being repeatedly asked and dismissed, granted by "MVP's" or independent advisors who have no link to the internal development or plans, they should have stepped up their messaging. The enterprise I work for pays them a fuckton of money, and we even have our own dedicated account reps who sang the same tune those fuckers on the forums did, and they were legit Microsoft employees. When W10's EOL was announced they sent over a lot of gift baskets to our VP's over that shit, because we knew how many mission critical systems we had that just got fucked in the ass, and our budgetary outlays just changed.

Complete fucking asshole move, and it could've been much better if the messaging were just handled differently.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, I strongly suspect there was a camp within Microsoft that was 100% pushing for 'rolling release' model for the OS versus another traditionalist camp that said there would be new major upgrades. Further, I bet rather than reconciling those perspectives, they just let both camps continue on under their own assumption, until eventually the traditionalists won out and got 'Windows 11', finalizing which way the company was going to actually go.

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 hours ago (11 children)

The moment I can verify a solution for my music production workflow on Linux, I know that I'm out as well.

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know what you're currently accustomed to or what the feature/workflow differences would be, but I've had some music folks I know be successful with Ardour and Reaper. Have you checked to see if those would let you do your thing? The other problem I've had is audio interface support in Linux, but that seems to have improved a lot. I've got an old Axe I/O Solo that didn't work at all a few years ago but now seems to have full support.

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I use FL, but yes, it's less the DAW that is the issue and more so my VST libraries and audio interface.

[–] hector@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah I bought a MacBook Air to replace my old beatmaking Windows computer. I'm loving it!

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Where are you on that process? I do 2D visuals and i'm at the point where all software that i use is available on Linux, but i have yet to actually try it in practice

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't had a lot of time recently to look, but I know FL studio can mostly be set up to work through wine. The problems exist in the plugins/VST's/ the VST management softwares/ the Audio interface drivers and latency.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, i ruled out Wine as an option pretty early on and i don't remember why. May have been compatibility issues?

I have cheap audio interfaces (C600, Alesis IO2, M-Audio FastTrack Pro and such), and apparently they're supposed to be natively compatible with Linux. Huge if true, on Windows i had to install drivers for each of them, including a community-built one. I don't know what this means for pro interfaces but it's encouraging

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