"Ummm, just testing democracy. Well done everyone!"
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I'm trying to wrap my head around this, partly because I haven't been following Korean politics as of late. From Reuters on an earlier article :
SEOUL, Dec 3 (Reuters) - South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol declared martial law on Tuesday for the first time in the country since 1980. Below is a Reuters translation of the military decree: "In order to protect liberal democracy from the threat of overthrowing the regime of the Republic of Korea by anti-state forces active within the Republic of Korea and to protect the safety of the people, the following is hereby declared throughout the Republic of Korea as of 23:00 on December 3, 2024
Maybe it's too early to know, but does anyone have the faintest idea what is meant by "anti-state forces"? Is this just a ham-fisted power grab that failed, or is there any legitimacy to that claim? I'm missing ALL the context here.
Parliament wanted to cut his budget. That's why he declared martial law.
What a weak snowflake move. Declares martial law because he doesn't get what he wants.
... he would move to lift a martial law declaration ...
Dude can just go on TV and declare it, how come he can't go on TV and undeclare it? What's taking so long?
Possibly there's autonomous actions required when martial law is declared that take some time to undo? Like taking a tent out of the box, it takes way longer to get it back in, if it ever does.
I'm only guessing, I honestly have no idea what it entails.
They explained that it took a majority of his cabinet to undeclared and they were all currently sleeping. (They had gone to bed before the declaration and had to be woken up to undo it.)
Still not understanding what happened today. Was president Yoon drunk?
He's handcuffed by an opposition led legislature and he and his wife are under investigation over influence pedaling and general corruption.
Say, that sounds familiar 🤔
Doesn't matter what he says, it was already rescinded by the legislature.
Kind of does, since the defense ministry said they were going to enforce martial law until the president lifted it, after parliament voted it down.
From a legal perspective, it doesn't matter. The Defense Minister reports to the president so it is still just the executive branch. Their constitution states that martial law is over when rescinded by the legislature.
Guns always beat laws.
Except in this case, the laws won.
The people won because they stood in front of the guns.
The legal perspective ceases to matter much when the enforcers of the law don't enforce it. Laws become mere words.
Don't you think he looks tired?
I can bring you down with six words, just six. Great reference.
Never really understood that. Like, yeah, I'd expect a politician to look tired, if they don't are they even doing anything? Shit is a stressful job in a 21st century.
Politicians almost universally need to project a happy warrior demeanor.
Voters want candidates that at minimum pretend to be enthusiastic about their platform.
Biden was removed partly because, in addition to being confused, he looks like a very old and tired man.
Lack of energy is seen, often correctly, as weakness.
Winston Churchill isn't lauded for saying "We'll try to stop them at the beaches... sigh"
Does he have a choice? Congress unanimously voted to reject martial law.
Not sure, but if he was the one to declare it then I’d imagine he’s the only one (unless he died after declaring it) to undo it. But I might be wrong idk