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[-] Talaraine@fedia.io 148 points 2 years ago

Literally on the heels of the revelation that China is spying on all chats and phone calls, these clowns still think back doors are safe in any way.

I swear, humanity is simply failing the IQ test here.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 112 points 2 years ago

What we need are laws to prevent this kind of court trolling because courts all over europe are wasting time and money on these repeated proposals. Politicians should be held accountable for wasting everyone's time.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 22 points 2 years ago

In the US somebody recently found a way to account powerful people.

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[-] iii@mander.xyz 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Combat_Child_Sexual_Abuse

How your representatives in EU parliament voted: https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=134463&country=fr%7Cde

Looks like it's mostly german representatives that block it. They remember the stasi.

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 11 points 2 years ago

It was the one good thing the german liberal party FDP was good for, but they aimed to destroy the coalition from the inside (literally! they made plans and discussion meetings when the best time to destroy it would be). And now they are out and we have the SPD and the Greens left. So one party who really has a hard on for surveillance and the other one who is undecided.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

1000010988

In all seriousness, the EU has become beyond frustrating in so many ways... Kudos for fighting against corporate monoliths, but... c'moon!

[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 years ago

I don't think you get the EU. It's a democracy and everyone can submit proposals.

This is a proposal from pro-Russian Orban from Hungary, and not EU's opinion.

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[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Here we go again Good old Child abuse.

[-] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

Not when the UK is already a member of Five Eyes.

[-] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Isn't that a burger restaurant?

[-] Morphit@feddit.uk 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah, they're a burgers & spies joint.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Not quite

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

An Anglosphere intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. These countries are party to the multilateral UK-USA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence.

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
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[-] ambitiousslab@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

To answer seriously: unfortunately, the UK is one step ahead with the Online Safety Act. They've already given Ofcom the power to enforce client-side scanning. Ofcom themselves are deciding whether they want to use this power yet and this should happen sometime next year.

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[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

You shouldn't be using whatsapp anyway.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

First they came for whatsapp. I didn't say anything because I don't use whattsapp.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

It would concern all messaging apps, which is beyond stupid. Lol, even nato uses the matrix protocol.

[-] randombullet@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Lots of defense uses XMPP as well

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Look, it was discussed for years already and we have a consensus; it's technically and legally not possible without giving you the keys (methaphorically and literally) and we can't give you the keys because that would quickly lead to you abusing the power given to you.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago

I actually don’t really understand how they would do this. Isn’t WhatsApp end to end by protocol? They’d have to share messages at the client side. What a mess.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

They want to force WhatsApp to scan your private messages on your device.

[-] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago

End-to-end encryption is worthless, when it's done by a company like meta in a closed source project.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 2 years ago

If you own the client, you own the message, agreed.

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[-] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 years ago

I use signal but I always kind of wanted to switch people to threema but in reality it's hard enough getting them to install signal.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 6 points 2 years ago

Threema really doesn't do a good job of making it easy to switch. For the regular user there is too much that can go wrong and its too easy to lose your chats when migrating to a new phone

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

And its fucking back again

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