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NEW YORK, Dec 11 (Reuters) - In the days since Luigi Mangione was charged with murder for gunning down a top health insurance executive, more than a thousand donations have poured into an online fundraiser for his legal defense, with messages supporting him and even celebrating the crime.

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Most of the messages on the crowd-sourced fundraising site GiveSendGo reflect a deep frustration shared by many Americans over the U.S. healthcare system - where some treatments and reimbursements can be denied to patients depending on their insurance coverage - as well as broader anger over rising income inequality and soaring executive pay.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

There is another bonus to jury nullification: the snitch usually only gets paid if the person is actually convicted.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 82 points 6 days ago (4 children)

What a pile of shit this article is. Reuters, just take the mask off already.

The crime he is accused of has been broadly condemned, but the Ivy League educated, photogenic 26-year-old has become an unsettling mixture of folk hero, celebrity, and online crush in certain circles. His support has only seemingly intensified since his arrest on Monday.

Unsettling, is it? Is that your detatched journalistic opinion? Fuck.

"They've made him a martyr for all the troubles people have had with their own insurance companies," said Rodriguez, now an adjunct professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. "I mean, who hasn't had run-ins with their insurance? But he's a stone-cold killer."

Damn, THE John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City?! Going all out for the "I mean, who hasn't had their mother's cancer treatment denied" quote eh. Good call, Reuters.

"It's hard to underestimate the anger and angst people have with their insurance companies," said David Shapiro, a former FBI agent and a professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

Spent more than ten minutes in the building did ya?

'DEEPLY DISTURBING'

Support was by no means universal, however.

Several commentators on social media noted Mangione's privileged background as a member of a prominent Baltimore, Maryland family, as compared to Thompson's working class upbringing in rural Iowa . . .

Ahhh there's that b0Th SiDeZ that makes the world go round. Well done Reuters, no one can fault this one! And that bit about the healthcare CEO being raised a hardscrabble farm boy with dreams of the big city is pure fucking gold you soulless corporate sleaze merchants.

"Our health system needs to be better ... There's a lot of things that should cause a lot of outrage," Amazon Pharmacy Chief Medical Officer Vin Gupta said. "It's also true that (the killing) should not have happened. There cannot be this false moral equivalence in our discourse."

That's what the article closes with. I bet it took AI at least a minute to fine-tune the "false moral equivalence" so all the poor libz who think he's a folk hero can begin to second-guess themselves and start the collapse of this whole sordid phenomenon whereby people are no fucking shit justifiably beyond outraged that everyone and their mom is getting screwed by this bullshit profit factory Nixon dreamed up.

Great job Reuters, you really whacked all the moles on this one.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The crime he is accused of has been broadly condemned

...by the oligarchs and their puppets exclusively. Pretty big omission there.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As I mentioned, the article was, as the kids say, "shit".

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You say this, but they also pointed people to the fundraiser - so it's a pretty helpful article, don't you think?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, because “the fundraiser” isn’t one I recognize and also there was discussion that funds seeming to reward murder would be banned - that sort of thing, both of which tell me the article didn’t much care what the fundraiser was, just that it was an anchor for the rest of the tripe to hang on.

Funding his defense counsel, funding ACLU or a non-profit in support, or directly to his Monero account or something - OK. But this doesn’t sound like it.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Where's your Christmas spirit?

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Several commentators on social media noted Mangione’s privileged background as a member of a prominent Baltimore, Maryland family, as compared to Thompson’s working class upbringing in rural Iowa . . .

That's not the same as condemning him. Just saying.

[–] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Who cares what either of their backgrounds are. One preyed on people for profit, the other is fighting for social equity. It's how they conducted themselves that matters, not the circumstances of their birth.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago

I mean, I read that as two class traitors, one of whom did the praxis to show which side he is on.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What is it doing then? (And, follow up question - why is it doing it)

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Personally, virtually 100% of the chatter I've seen online is pro-Luigi. Rooting him on in his escape/evasion, hoping he doesn't get caught, or outright praising his actions.

Thus, my point is if the sharpest anti-Luigi commentary the author can find is discussion of his background, that shows he's pulling at straws to get a 'both sides' story when the reality is among rank and file people, there's a strong near-universal sentiment that Thompson had it coming.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Indeed - sort of creating anti-Luigi commentary, isn’t it.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Great breakdown. Thank you

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The US elected a convicted felon to the presidency and you're shocked an alleged felon is somewhat popular? We are talking about a country that has become entirely obsessed with "hurting the right people".

[–] bilb@lem.monster 9 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I wonder what might might cause the American people to be inured to crime and violence. We see oligarchs making a mockery of the law almost constantly, not to even mention the ridiculous appeals to "rules based international order" abroad.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 29 points 6 days ago

It's disappointing to see even Reuters dancing around the topic of the fully justified and wildly popular outrage against corporate America. They're trying so hard to whitewash this and paint support for Luigi as "disturbing" while painstakingly tip-toeing around the actual issues. I expected better of Reuters than contributing to the bootlicking editorializing that's going on in this article.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If he gets tried and comes out not guilty. There is going to be the biggest spontaneous parties ever.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

In more than one sense. I would vote for Luigi.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You think people partied hard for the Rodney King verdict?

This would be insane.

this is very different. someone brought up mcvey with him to but he went after one person who made the decisions that are killing people or leaving them crippled and/or in pain.

[–] ironsoap@lemmy.one 33 points 6 days ago (7 children)
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The most fucked up thing is right below his page, all the people needing money for healthcare related costs. Cancers/surgeries/live saving treatments...the fact that to survive in the usa you have to hope strangers send money to you is totally fucked.

[–] Adm_Drummer@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

What's really funny is that's how socialised healthcare works. We all pool money together based on income and it goes into this neat little fund that ensures no person ever goes without healthcare.

Corporations like United Health can't profit from this so they've been working and lobbying lawmakers in my country and others for decades to gut the public health and education sectors to cause more deaths and get a foothold for private care.

In my eyes this is a corporate act of war and should be condemned to the highest degree. Our forefathers died in trenches to prove our worth and ensure we could practice this social democracy. American terror organisations sow doubts in the minds of my people and poison the waters of meaningful progress.

There is calculable effect on the people of my country in housing, health and education because of these profiteering fucks. These predatory animals could disappear tomorrow and nobody would give a flying fuck.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wish it didn't need to be done on Givesendgo but I guess they're the only ones allowing it to stay up.

For anyone not aware, from its wikipedia:

GiveSendGo is a Christian crowdfundingwebsite.[5] GiveSendGo has attracted controversy for allowing far-right extremists to fundraise, including neo-Naziswhite supremacists and hate groups.[15]

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At some point you're gonna have to decide which one is more important, your hatred for religion or your hatred f for he rich.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't hate religion and I'd be perfectly fine with a Christian version of Gofundme (even if I weren't to use it myself). My problem is they were used as the main financial backing to the 2022 "freedom" trucker convoy in Ottawa, Canada. I lived in the middle of this shit for nearly four weeks. I got harassed the minute I left my house and I have friends who had to leave the city because it was too much for them.

My issue is not that the site is Christian but the fact that they played a large part in funding that whole event and apparently a bunch of other nasty things too.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I donated and I don't even live in the states, I just support the cause. Looks like it's gaining momentum, too.

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[–] psoul@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How do we know for sure the money will go to McShooty? I couldn’t find any guarantee on the funding page. I’m worried it’s yet another grift…

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

From the givesendgo page ...

All proceeds will be sent directly to Luigi or, if he chooses to reject the funds, they will instead be donated to legal funds for other U.S political prisoners.

[–] psoul@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I read that as well, I just wish there was a better way to ensure the funds would go to him. We just have the word of whomever setup that fundraising page. I don’t know if I trust it.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

We should wait until we hear from his family or defense team.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Says it's unpunished

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

Mr Rodriguez, this guy just provided the justice that the government denied to thousands of people. He did the job that you failed to do.

[–] Marleyinoc@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Did they provide a donation link?

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I am not surprised they are pouring in.

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