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[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 139 points 2 years ago

if ceo assassinations were a tenth as common as school shootings, the usa would have the toughest gun control laws in the world.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Totally calling that line (from a Google voice number obtained on a VM) to chat with the underpaid folks about the inanity of their job but how they should take that paycheck and also demand more because the lines are flooded.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Just make sure you use burner number.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

you know that google can map the call to your IP and your provider (or VPN provider) the IP to your payment method, right?

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not mullvad. Paid for my VPN with cash.

You know that spoofing an IP is trivially easy, right?

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

not if you want to get a reply

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

On a hotline? I'll be alright thanks.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

no, for your IP packages that you spoofed the sender adress on. how do you think the remote host will reach it?

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago

when you open an IP connection for your phone call or your VPN, there need three packages to be sent back and forth. you won't get the second one if you spoofed the IP, hence the call or VPN won't even start.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i don't think that means what you think it does. it just changes who knows your IP to another node. if you want to establish a connection there will be someone who knows your real IP. how else will you recieve a reply package to complete a connection?

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not here to argue with you or teach you. It's really not an advanced concept. If you're lost go talk with ChatGPT or something.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago

oh i'm not lost. i'm a network specialist

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

...then you should know how to spoof a call. Kinda embarrassing that you dont.

Dunning Kruger called...

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago

my coworkers found your replies hilarious. was nice talking to you bro

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You're straight up embarrassing yourself on a forum full of highly technical people. I won't be surprised when you delete your comments.

You're confidently conflating two very different things: basic IP spoofing that breaks TCP connections and the use of a reverse proxy to mask an IP address during communication. Let me explain why you're wrong and how the process actually works.

  1. IP Spoofing for One-Way Traffic:

When you "spoof" an IP, you modify the source address in a packet to make it appear as if it came from somewhere else.

You're right that for a full TCP connection, the three-way handshake (SYN → SYN-ACK → ACK) won't complete because the response (SYN-ACK) goes to the spoofed IP, not to the actual sender. This is basic networking, and no one is arguing that.

  1. Reverse Proxy Basics:

Here's where you get it wrong: a reverse proxy or intermediary server is not IP spoofing in the raw packet sense.

The reverse proxy establishes the connection with the target server on your behalf. It completes the handshake, relays data to/from the target, and forwards the responses back to you.

Your actual IP never touches the target because all the traffic appears to come from the proxy.

Simplified Flow:

VM (Google Voice) → VPN (Mullvad, paid with cash) → Reverse Proxy → Target Hotline

The target sees the reverse proxy's IP, not yours. The reverse proxy handles the replies and sends them back to your system.

  1. Why This Works:

You only need to maintain a stable connection with the reverse proxy. The proxy takes care of everything else, including interacting with the target server or hotline.

This is not spoofing mid-connection traffic; this is using a relay to abstract your origin. It’s a fundamental networking concept used for load balancing, anonymity, and even services like Cloudflare.

  1. Google Voice Context:

The call originates from a VM, using Mullvad to mask your real IP. If you route the call through a reverse proxy, the target hotline only interacts with the proxy's IP.

You maintain full two-way communication because the proxy handles and relays replies, ensuring nothing breaks.

TL;DR: You're incorrectly applying the concept of raw IP spoofing (which doesn't work for full communication) to a process that involves a reverse proxy or VPN, where the proxy legitimately completes the connection and forwards traffic. If you're a "network specialist," you should know this. The fact that you don't is what's truly embarrassing.

And now, I block you. I won't waste my time talking to morons who are so confidently incorrect.

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago

lol, in that case the VPN provider has your real IP and all networking equipment from us providers in between you and the VPN

[-] Jubei_K_08@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

I'm sure no online community would constantly prank call that hotline 😎👍

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, it's not hard to become a CEO. It's not expensive to register an LLC. And you can give yourself whatever stupid title you want.

And, whose to say I, a newly minted CEO, don't feel in fear for my life due to my health insurance company? Make yourself a CEO, and any time they deny a claim, call in to report your health insurance company for threatening your life.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 31 points 2 years ago

Hard to call when you have a bullet in the head.

[-] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago
[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

sigh well that was a real nice secret CEO hotline we had once.

[-] Norin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

My head went to the exact same place.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Ironically, if you really wanted to make healthcare CEOs safer, you'd set up a hotline for people who have been denied medical coverage.

Hope leads to peace, despair leads to bullets.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 2 years ago

I hope it's just a recording of Nelson Muntz saying "Ha ha!"

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

That would be..

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Someone should hack it so it just redirects to Kitboga's scammer-trapping labyrinth.

Or better yet, it detects which CEO is calling, and it just dumps the bastards into their own company's AI-hell phone tree.

I prefer my punishments to be ironic.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Can women who are threatened by abusive exes use this hotline? Or is it only for capitalist murderers?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 years ago

Strictly for those that don't need it. Just like most of what the likes of Hochum and Adams prioritize.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 15 points 2 years ago
[-] jet@hackertalks.com 11 points 2 years ago

Tap for spoiler....3

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

"We have to get over it."

Illustrious Donald Trump

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

There's a good chance that if this gets enough push back they'll just implement it quietly and call it something else. Nobody will even know.

[-] Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

the rich always get a fast pass

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

What prevents anybody from calling? Or any self employed from giving themselves the title of CEO? Are they going to reject CFOs and other Cs?

Why do I think this will end up being "hotline for rich bastards"?

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What we really need is a murder support group

this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2024
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