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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

It's crazy to think that the level of border control we have today would be unfathomable to someone even 100 years ago. If we go a bit earlier, how could you even ID someone without photographs?

[–] Txmyx@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago

Join Schengen! It's easy, unless Austria abuses it's Veto rights

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

This is a call for world federalism. I support it, but it's probably ahead of our time. A democratic world federation (a truly united nations [of earth] perhaps) would be able to more effectively solve many (global) problems.

Or it's a return to how things were before nationalism rotted the brains of basically everyone on Earth

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Probably once aliens make their apparition, there'd be a much greater incentive to unite

[–] Saithe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 hours ago

He somehow managed to make border abolition sound uncool. Many people don’t agree with it for many reasons, none of which were it being uncool until this tweet

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 35 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Had to put on pants to go outside due to artificially created laws.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I dunno I kind of hate sitting where someone else's sweaty ass has sat on first. I'll let this one slide.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Just don't sit then, ever again!

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 hours ago

“ ‘Private property is the smallest unit of warfare’ - The Environmental Rescue Team Handbook”

Annalee Newitz, The Terraformers (2023), chapter 15

[–] tino@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

what he's really complaining about is queuing, not borders. first world problem.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 2 hours ago

That's how I read it. Rich man angry he had to stand in line.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 47 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

I don't care if you hate him; he's right on this. this entire thing is bullshit.

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[–] halowpeano@lemmy.world 37 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I think it actually is interesting if you're going to call out humans as a species of animal!

All across species from unicellular to megafauna, from plants to fungus, you can find mechanisms used to defend an individual's physical territory. Ants and bees from the same species will fight and kill others colony members of they stray into their territory. Bears will fight and kill other bears. Our closest relatives, chimps, will go to war with neighboring chimp bands.

Artificial borders are humans way of saying "this is my territory enter at your own risk". The REALLY interesting thing is that we have established systematic exceptions to the behaviors we see in nature. "Ask us before you come and you can visit and be safe here from those that enforce our territory."

The temporary nature is unique, many social animals will permanently adopt an outsider into their group on occasion, equivalent to immigration, but I'm not aware of any that have pre-agreed temporary violations of group territory.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I guess you can draw that comparison, but then human territories are exponentially bigger than anything an equivalent social animal might claim as "enter at your risk" area. A traveling pack of dogs can just go around another pack's territory. We can't do that, we're boxed in. There's no neutral space left. I guess you could argue there's international waters, but that's practically inaccessible to most people.

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[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 43 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (17 children)

I love all the posts calling him arrogant and elitist for pointing out something, in a critical manner, that by their nature are arrogant and elitist: nation state borders.

Those things that make people who've done nothing feel entitled to more resources than other people by virtue of where their mother was hanging out when she popped them out.

I think dwelling on their artifical, self-serving nature is healthier than taking them seriously in any other sense than the threat of state violence for failing to pretend that they're sacred.

Humanity, not to be confused with your own individual greed or birth lottery results, would be far better off abolishing them. They bring nothing to the table but dehumanization, death, and inequity. Most, even most who consider themselves to be on the privileged side of the imaginary line in the dirt, have far more in common with the people trying to get to the privileged side than the miniscule populations of sociopath humans that use them to secure and metastasize their ego score hoards, the entire point of them.

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 57 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Wait til you learn that the reason you hate immigrants and immigration is that the wealthy conditioned you to hate them. Notice how capital can cross borders, but people can't? This allows the wealthy to profit off of international arbitrage, while regular citizens can't. A CEO can move a factory to a low cost country to save on labor, but you in a wealthy country can't move there to save on cost of living. And the citizens in a poor country can't move to a wealthy country to earn better wages. The corporations get to take advantage of international arbitrage, but you don't.

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