One is based on something you can't control.
this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2024
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so if your born in a rich family. is that in your control?
No, but at the same time, wealth doesn't need to be made out by someone as being a matter of class, just a manifestation of what you've been able to give/receive in society.
I know a guy earning six figures that considers himself working class because "I work", we all know he's comfortably middle upper.
I don't judge him based upon his wealth but that doesn't mean class isn't a thing.
So would it be fair to say if someone was a higher status than you, there should be no ill will against them? only the select few who exploit those below them?
It's always fair to say people should only be judged by their character.
None.
Racism, as we all (should) know is skin shallow. That is enough. Not being of the "right" color establishes that an individual has no rights, no freedoms, and in extremes cases, not even humanity.
Classism is just a reviewed version of the cast system. Where you are born on the social pyramid dictates your fate. Born poor, die poor.
None are tolerable. All human beings are born equal.
I will absolutely judge people based on their class. You don't come to obtain and maintain massive wealth without being an absolute shit person
What you are doing, by taking that position, is just subscribing to the current social model. That's not even a criticism; it's joining the band wagon.
Let's say you have a big success tomorrow and you manage to amass a great fortune. Are you going to give it away? Are you going to do something with your newly found wealth to truly change something for better?
The top three wealth holders in the planet are there because people allowed it. Facebook was just so groudbreaking, so innovative, so useful to connect to people. Amazon is just so convenient, so easy to use. And electric cars never existed before.
They were enabled and still are by the same people that cry today against them. If the notion of true equality really existed, the moment those individuals started becoming too big, people would remove trust and start demanding them to do good, tangible good, for others.
Are people not racist based on accent as well though?
For example Irish people?
I'm not directly conected with english speaking countries so that example always evades me but you're right.
The scottish also had it bad with the english as well. And some time back I read a news report on how a man had been insulted in a train for not speaking english, in London. He was speaking welsh...
Racism picks on any small thing to rise divergence, usually something the target of it can't change. But anything works.
I wasn’t saying you were wrong, I was just wondering if I was. True about the Scot’s, and the Welsh too….and the Cornish. Basically any form of Celt.
We're just exchanging ideas here and you brought up a very good point.
But it made think that by contrast, in Africa, several ethnic groups coexist and language was not that big of a concern for conflict.
well at least there's one sane person on this website.
It wildly depends on who you ask, so don't waste your praise on me.
How high are you right meow?
i dont get high anymore.
Not very, it is mostly downvoted so won't appear very high in most people's feeds
How high are you right meow?
The difference?
Its right there in the names
Racism is ignorance and can be mended with understanding. Classism is an ongoing war, and can be mended with (upward) mobility, strikes or even riots/civil disobedience.