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I absolutely cannot figure out what to do in order to fix an Apple computer when it’s bugging out. Is it a part? The OS? Something external? How am I supposed to diagnose this fucker with so little information? Windows is rapidly heading down the same road. Linux will remain the final bastion of those who fix their electronics themselves
I absolutely cannot figure out what to do in order to fix an Apple computer when it’s bugging out
Buy a new one, duh
macOS is Unix. Everything can be logged and reported through the terminal if you want more debugging information. There are also power tools you can download that give you better GUI-based control over a myriad of things.
Though it’s worse now than it was ten years ago. Apple’s software has been suffering under Tim Cook and it’s probably not going to get better until he’s gone.
Indeed I think the "Yes/No" are the wrong way around on the Apple part of the flow.
Also, why else do you think they call them geniuses. Only geniuses could possibly fix your smooth metal rectangle.
If only it had a whole slew of logs, like any other OS, that I could easily Google the locations of... Nah, vomiting ignorance on Lemmy is easier.
The reason MacOS is seen as a working computer is because if anything breaks about it, it isn't considered a computer anymore by Apple, it is considered e-waste.
I guess I don’t get this attitude about macs. I switched to mac when I was traveling a lot in 2007 and saw how portable they could be compared to other laptops. It’s almost 2025 and I just bought my third one last year. My kids are still using my 13 year old MBA for homework, and the hardware is absolutely solid.
Edit: Lol, downvote reality. My favorite pastime.
they dont like when you point out that as obnoxious as apple can be, they put out good products
* iWaste
I tried to find a good study of laptop lifespan by brand. The best thing I could find was a consumer reports survey from 2023.
They rated Apple as the #1 laptop for reliability. I don’t think that is “iWaste.”
This lines up with what I’ve seen, but even as a career IT person my personal sample size ain’t that great.
I dislike that current Apple products aren’t very repairable, but appreciate that they are very recyclable and durable.
This was a problem when they were selling Apple IIs
MUGs came into being because Apple provided zero support and overcharged for proprietary hardware. So the only recourse was to find a hobbyist, and they were glad to help.
Do you like to throw money at your problems and more money when you're told: 🍎
Do you have a nonconsensual submissive kink with a love for sadistic roughly forced updates destroying what you were working on and ads shoved deep up your home directory: 🪟
Do you like free stuff and can RTFM: 🐧
why RTFM when you can
sorry for the brainrot
Well if your definition of "working" is "can run all the important programs and game" then anything thats not windows or linux wont work.
Honestly. I got a work mac and now I can't run notepad++. I'm stuck with an ide I hate.
Use TextEdit for .txt and .rtf, and get Sublime Text, VS Codium, or any of the other bazillion IDEs out there until you find one you can tolerate. Helix does that for me. (:
Working computer - >Mac
Should have been:
Do you have more money than brains?->Mac
Or
Fuck this, I'm doing this for shit and giggles. ->Mac
Is my employer paying for it? ➔ 🍎
The best thing about quitting was returning that damned Mac... Hated every second of using it, horrid UX.
Once, when I started a new job, I had to use an Apple laptop until my Linux laptop came. While the Apple laptop was better than I expected, it was still one of the most annoying weeks of my life. The most unbearable part was the keyboard. I could never tell which hotkeys used ctrl and what used alt, and it just wasn't worth the effort of remembering the differences or remapping them.
But besides that, after using Linux for 15 years, the very basic levels of configurability that the Apple window manager provides just made it look like a child's toy compared to Linux. In Linux, there are so many different window managers that it becomes very easy to customize an environment that works perfectly for you. With Apple, you just get what you're given and if it's bad or doesn't work well for your habits, then tough luck, you're stuck with it anyway. So in that respect, Apple computers don't work at all - you work for the computer, whereas it should be the other way around.
But at the end of the day, what it really comes down to is the fact that people just like what they're used to, and it sucks to change. What's best is a matter of preference; none is better objectively better than the other.
Except Windows. Fuck Windows.
Do you like being spied on and having your data sold?
=> Windows or ChromeOS
Do you have too much money?
=> Mac
Do you have a decent set of working brains?
=> Linux
Too true. MacOS is the one place you can get a UNIX toolchain in a stable environment. If something works on my Mac, it works on my coworker’s Mac. If something works on Ubuntu but you’re using Nix… Uh, YMMV.
I love Linux, but if you’re gonna use it as a desktop OS, you pretty much accept that you now have a part-time job keeping up on Linux news to deal with the fact that each component of your system is in a perpetual state of “deprecated support for The Old Way, and experimental support for The New Way”.
Our Mac colleague is literally the only one in the dev team having constant troubles, constantly spinning up VMs to get stuff working.
Yeah, if you have a mixed dev team then I’m sure the odd ones out are gonna have the most trouble.
My point was more that if you have a team of all Macs or a team of all Linux, I’m much more confident in stuff working on everyone’s machine in the Mac scenario.
Even if you stretch it to “the Mac users get to customize the hell out of their machines, and the Linux users only do the minimum to get a fully functional dev environment”, I think the Macs end up in a more consistent state.
Every Flatpak, Snap, and AppImage works on every Linux system I’ve tried.
Don't worry everyone, it's like the Sorting Hat, it takes your preference into account. Just say "not TempleOS" and you'll get into Linux.
So I'm switching to TempleOS.
TempleOS, huh? Better give it a try then.
It's an amazing piece of technology made as a hobby project by the absurdly talented Terry Davis. He gradually lost his world, house and evetually his life to debilitating mental illness, so it makes me sad to see posts like this using "mentally unstable lol" as a punchline.
Where is BSD? I feel like there are still steps before you reach TempleOS.
Working computer? Apple? Tell that to my dad. He destroys a Mac in about two years. Bought his house 7 years ago, and three dead macs in the basement.
Could you imagine if he used a PC?
I want it; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS
Man, this guy's wiki background ends on a banger.
" In mid-2013, his website announced: "God's temple is finished. Now, God kills CIA until it spreads [sic]."[6]
Davis died after being hit by a train on August 11, 2018.[7]"
I tried to be unbiased, but failed. Apple and Linux should be switched.
I don't know about macOS, but from experience, neither Linux nor Windows are actually "just works". Although it will depend on distro, I definitely have different experience on Arch and Manjaro than say Mint users. Mint worked for me well, although older dependencies have also killed "just works" a few times.
What kind of Bizzaro world reverse order is this nonsense? Mac is worse than Windows is worse than Linux.
Copium needs to justify spending $800 for 2tb of SSD or $400 for 8 GB of ram like if we still were in the early 2010s
Macintosh OS is the most fucked up UNIX I've ever used. Worse than Solaris 8
So am I too crazy for 🐧?
I am not at all mentally stable, but was planning on starting my switch in January.
cope and seethe. Haven't had an issue with either my debian desktop nor my debian laptop in the 5 years I've been running it on them. Sounds like you're just mad your OS constantly advertises paid services to you, and mine doesn't.
pretty outdated meme, to say the least
I love how controversial this one is.