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[–] fucker@lemmy.world 144 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This would be great on a t-shirt!

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would purchase this if someone were to sell it on a hoodie!

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm out if the loop, is this a joke referring to the t-shirt bots on Twitter lol

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah lol, the idea being that web crawling tshirt bots are scanning for popular images and keywords to automatically steal content for printing

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Semi-joke, semi-attempt to get bots to make tshirts.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 116 points 1 year ago (4 children)

it's insane when people on reddit defend disney in that bullshit lawsuit about how they HAVE to sue a daycare for using its characters in a mural, they HAVE to in order to keep their other bullshit going. i've seen multiple posts! acting like it's smart business!

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe we should fix the insanity that is US copyright law.

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not copyright, trademark. At least, that's the rules those comments assume Disney is following. It's pretty dumb, I can't think of any world those characters get genericised, but eh.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (16 children)

So IANAL but my brother used to do IP law before it broke him. The way he explained it to me was that it's not that it's a business decision, it's that they can lose the trademark if they don't try to defend it. So if something comes to their attention, they aren't really allowed to pick and choose who gets to infringe on their IP rights.

I'm sure there's a better explanation out there but I'm a tax guy, but an IP guy.

That being said, the situation you described (I am unfamiliar with the case) sounds like such bullshit. The point of trademark is to avoid confusion. Unless that daycare was in Anaheim, Orlando, or Burbank I wouldn't assume any connection to Disney (and if it was in those cities I'd assume the connection was that they'd hired a Disney artist to paint their wall). There's gotta be a fair use defense here.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

it’s that they can lose the trademark if they don’t try to defend it

So the copyright and trademark system needs to change then.

Also, those laws were essentially ghostwritten by Disney and the like, so I very much doubt that wasn't an intentional thing so they can go "look, we have to sue you, our hands are tied!"

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

To clarify, you don't need to defend copyright to maintain it, only trademarks. They're very different things. Copyright is meant to protect you from people just reprinting your stuff (and privacy). Trademarks are meant to protect the distinguishing features your company uses to separate it from other companies.

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[–] WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

they can lose the trademark if they don’t try to defend it

This is true, but that's if another company is using a similar logo as their own. Like, if a pet store used the Mickey Mouse logo, of course they're going to be sued.

If a daycare uses Mickey Mouse to decorate their classroom, Disney doesn't have to sue because the trademark isn't be used separate from Disney. The Daycare, and kids, are using it because it's Disney, so there is no confusion about trademark ownership.

At the very least, Disney could simply write them a letter allowing them to use depictions of Disney characters inside the school so long as it's not for advertising or commercial purposes and the art is done by a student or teacher.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A simple crease and desist letter surely suffice for this, right? No need to waste resource suing a daycare for copyright infringement?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

There’s a subset of the population that is absolutely fine with businesses fucking over regular people in the name of profit in no-harm crimes like you mention. Heck, they even want certain political figures to screw over regular people because they’re great businessmen.

Of course they’d probably change their tune if they’re the ones getting screwed over.

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[–] odium@programming.dev 102 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This image would go great on a t shirt

[–] kill_dash_nine@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

I could image myself taking this imagine and printing it on a shirt!

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago

The clarifying language, oddly enough, gives it protection as protest art.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wish I could have this on a T-shirt! That would be so funny and cool

I want this on a mug so bad

I would pay money to see this on a mousepad!!!

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't put this on Lemmy, you're compromising all the instances who download it! These guys can't afford the legal defense.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

IANAL, but I think in this context this would count as political commentary/expression and therefore fair use.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah and they're being extra weak as this is the steamboat willy Micky which falls into public domain Jan 1st 2024 which is only a couple of months away.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I expect a Disney short featuring Steamboat Willie Mickey to be released on December 31st, 2023.

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[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it says it isn't parody!

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[–] Xcf456 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is this guy not public domain yet, I thought that was coming up. Maybe next year? John Oliver did a whole bit on it

[–] digdug@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surprised they didnt extend copyright for another thousand millenia.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Disney realized that Mickey's copyright value is low compared to his trademark value, which they'll never lose so long as the ear shaped icecream never stops flowing.

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[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Mickey (Steamboat Willie version) will be public domain next year...

[–] elint@programming.dev 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Woopsie just accidentally extended that period again by 30 years

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Congress will extend copyright again, they always do.

[–] AEsheron@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Disney seems to have seen some writing on the wall and pivoted into a trademark focus instead of endless copyright extensions. This is probably why they've been using Steamboat Willy more in some logos in the past few years. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see another extension, but it's never gotten this close before and they don't seem to be campaigning to extend it at the moment.

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would also buy this on a shirt. Where can I buy this? I want to buy this. This shirt I want to buy.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just steal the picture and have it printed on some bootleg shop.

[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you didn't know, I believe this image was made in response to specific bots that would throw up a link to an automated listing, with stolen art copy pasted on a t-shirt jpeg, whenever people on twitter said "I want this on a shirt".

Small artists had trouble defending their art from being stolen by these bots, and this image (and subsequent comments like "I want to buy this shirt") was a trap to get these bots in trouble with disney.

If you knew all this and I'm just rambling, ignore me

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[–] livus@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

T shirts, mugs, hoodies, body pillows...

[–] ryan@the.coolest.zone 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the problem is that I would actually purchase this on a t-shirt, but there is no way to legitimately purchase it from the original creator (if i even knew who that was) for obvious Disney-suing-to-the-ground reasons.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Michael Rodent, and his girlfriend, Minerva

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[–] StarManta@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Regardless of what it says on the image this is 100% a parody.

[–] Hazzard@lemm.ee 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I think maybe you're out of the loop here. This is part of a trend to screw over bots that automatically steal art and sell it on random sites. That's why others are commenting stuff like "I'd buy this on a t-shirt!".

The tactic has already been proven to work several times, when people post stuff like this, and then report the shops that steal it to Disney's legal team. It's a clever way to leverage Disney's lawyers to protect regular artists who couldn't afford to sue all these random websites.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The funny thing is though, I would buy this on a T-shirt

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[–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago

Wow! Does anyone know where i can get this? A link to a site that steals my credit card info perhaps?

[–] trollblox_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

fuck disney

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