this post was submitted on 26 Dec 2024
112 points (88.9% liked)

Asklemmy

44218 readers
974 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.

How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?

I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.

And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.

So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 112 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I run my own instance, so supremely displeased as expected.

[–] FrostyTrichs@walledgarden.xyz 21 points 6 days ago

Won't somebody save me from myself!

[–] okr765@lemmy.okr765.com 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My instance admin is also extremely oppressive.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

.ml here, I'm happy with this community. I know the reputation it has, but honestly, I haven't really seen it. I'm a hardcore leftist, but I've been very critical of China, Russia, etc. And I'm not a tankie. Obviously haven't been banned or had my comments removed.

The mods here seem quite reasonable, and of course if folks don't agree, there are a lot of other instances.

I used to be a free-speech absolutist when I was young, but then I realized that there isn't such a thing. Even the few places online that pride themselves on having "no censorship" like 4-chan still have a handful of things that they don't allow.

Quite frankly, I think those places are pretty nasty overall and I have no desire to emulate them. Racists, Pedos, lgbt-phobes don't need a platform or to have their opinions elevated or taken seriously.

I wouldn't think a top university's physics department is improved by devoting classes and curriculum to flat earth or 7-day creationism. Likewise, I don't think a forum or server is made better by allowing racists and bigots to have a safe space on it.

Of course, you have to decide what crosses the line, but welcome to real life. There's a difference between a hardcore neo-nazi who thinks Jews and black folks are literal sub-humans, and your 87 year-old grandpa who unironically calls the employees at his favorite asian buffet, "Chinamen."

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In general communities it's ok here but in global events it's easy to see in the modlog that certain topics which are not favorable for Socialist-In-Name-Only are hidden very fast.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (8 replies)
[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

I'm on world. Fuck the admins of world.

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"Censorship" has become a buzzword and lost all of its meaning

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The line is at least very blurred with moderation. One person's moderation is another person's censorship.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It simply means that somebody stopped you from talking.

That's it.

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 6 days ago (25 children)

it made me get off of lemmy.world

load more comments (25 replies)
[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'm happy with Lemmy.ml. I feel like moderation is taken seriously here and that is a very good thing. I don't care for "free speech" that provides a platform for immoral points of view. For example, I do not need to consider the opinions of racists or Nazis. I've heard them plenty and there is no redeeming value in their speech. It is a settled debate. Anyone who doesn't understand that deserves your suspicion.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Also on .ml and agree. Nazi shit on an instance makes it unusable as far as I'm concerned.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I find, it's useful to piss off the nazis. For example, lemmy.ml has a word filter, which has hardly an impact on anything. But the free-speech absolutists who want to be allowed to say that we should murder ethnic groups of people, because they think that's an opinion, they see that as censorship, so they don't care to join here.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm no Nazi, I just think it's infantilizing to filter out certain words so I left .ml. We're all adults here. Enjoy what you like though, I'm happy with /0.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

Sh.itjust.works has been brilliant, tbh.

High uptime, reasonable admins.

Very happy with it

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My instance has no censorship and federates with all, and moderation only happens for obvious illegal content, not someone having an opinion that is not popular.

To me, it's what the fediverse is supposed to be, so very happy.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Not bad. The thing with "censorship" is that there are no real "free-speech" instances, all instances have opinions they deem intolerable and thus prune (whether selectively or overtly), and many selectively federate and defederate in a manner that makes one camp of thought more dominant, ie liberalism on Lemmy.world via defederation from Hexbear and Lemmygrad, etc.

Lemmy.ml is quicker to remove comments that break the rules than other instances, but is also more broadly federated and thus gets more points of view than, say, Lemmy.world. Lemmy.world on the other hand is more selective with what it removes, but intentionally defederates from instances with heavy concentrations of Marxists, a more subtle form of "censorship" that ultimately shapes the dominant narratives on its instance.

What this ultimately means is that the answer is to openly admit bias, which exists in everyone, and accept that as a natural consequence of the fediverse model. I wouldn't go to Lemmy.world if I wanted to know the opinion of Marxists just like I wouldn't go to Lemmygrad if I wanted to know the opinion of liberals on a subject, this recognition of bias is an intrinsic aspect of the federated model and needs to be openly recognized, otherwise sabre rattling about "censorship" between instances becomes a never-ending source of unconstructive drama.

[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Most important is that passwords are always censored for others: ********

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Really? Let me try.

Hunter2

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] hakase@lemm.ee 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

I love that lemm.ee is federated with everyone, because that means I frequently encounter ideas that I - gasp - disagree with!

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 18 points 6 days ago

Just in case anyone needs to investigate what instances are federated/defederated from each other.

https://defed.xyz/

[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 15 points 6 days ago

we aren't federated with NSFW instances and thats honestly okay because I use this account in public.

[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago (12 children)

I feel OK about it, for the most part. I can say "genocide is always wrong" and not get banned here.

load more comments (12 replies)
[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’m on lemmy.one which has disabled downvoting. If I had known in advance I would have picked another instance. Unfortunately, Lemmy doesn’t have a mechanism to transfer your account to another instance yet.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Copy settings to new account, add a note in your old profile telling people you've moved to another instance and add the link to your new profile. Use the same Display name in both. Done. If you want to remember what you posted, you could always search and filter by both your old account and new account. It's effectively the same as a transfer.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've been thinking about switching over to lemmy.today as it's not currently defederated with anyone, so I can decide who to block and keep for myself. It's based in Oregon, and I like the idea of joining an instance close to me. I do worry about Lemmy.world being so overly dominate in the federated-lemmy-space.

But many of the communities that I participate in are lemmy.world, and it's nice that they send me an automated notice whenever a post/comment of mine is removed. I've already subscribed to many communities and would have to do that all over again. and I haven't thought of a creative new username.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just had all of my comments deleted by the mod of a vegan group because I questioned one person. Seems lemmy is bringing over mods from reddit and their attitudes.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 5 points 5 days ago

I am the only (AFAIK) Italian instance and pretty happy. No censorship.

I don't know how people from Lemmy.world stand it, honestly.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I haven’t had a single issue with feeling censored at DB0. If anything, it is users from other instances acting like they own the whole Fediverse that I have occasionally had a problem with, but I don’t think any of them were moderators.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

My random choice of instance over a year ago with zero research has worked out well so far.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›