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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 59 points 3 days ago

Almost like there is a coordinated campaign by gas & oil lobbyists across the globe. Curious.

(Greetings from Germany where the government had the goal of helping 500k heat pumps get installed in 2024. People installed 200k heat pumps, but 500k gas/oil furnaces. This follows a solid year 2022/2023 of concentrated disinformation campaigns about heat pumps.)

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Where is this misinformation? I have never heard anyone say anything bad about heat pumps.

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mostly boomer Facebook groups

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Ah. That would do it.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

To be fair, heat pumps are noisy. I've lived in two houses with heat pumps now and my nextdoor neighbor has one. All of them are loud. They're still worth it.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not really. Older ones are loud, small/underpowered ones are loud but new, larger, correctly sized, modulating heat pumps can be fairly quiet.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago

The first one I experienced was definitely small and underpowered and I hated it because it couldn't keep up with 80°F+ temperatures. And it was fucking loud.

The two more recent ones I have had experience with are only a few years old, appropriately sized, and much more capable. They're not quite as loud, but still noisy.

As someone who is somewhat sensitive to sound, I couldn't stand the first one. The current one that I have, I often don't notice that it's on until it turns off and I suddenly feel a rush of relief that it's quiet again.

So they do have at least one downside. At least my current one can keep up with whatever weather comes our way.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Modern heat pumps are very quiet.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again...we have them. Unless by "modern" you mean something like "no more than 2 years old", yes, they are still noisy.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No, they aren't. I have 2. I'm sitting 8 feet from one right now. The only thing you hear is the whoosh of air.

Edit: I think you are talking of the super old motel style heat pumps. Not minisplits. Old style heat pumps are noisy. Minisplits are not. But seriously, minisplits have been a thing for the better part of a decade... Who the fuck is still installing motel style heat pumps anymore?

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm talking about modern heat pumps which do not use mini splits. Mini splits are nice and quiet. But whoever owned my house before me installed a heat pump that does not use them but uses the ductwork. It's loud.

There are obviously multiple models and we're not talking about the same ones. Neither of us is wrong.

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ahh ok that makes sense. I feel like pretty much everyone is installing minisplits these days. Not saying that heat pumps don't still exist, but it's kind of a "but... Why?“ reaction. As in, why would anyone install this over an adequately powered minisplit.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

That's a question I expect to be looking into a few years from now.