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I was just laughing at the absurdity in robocop rouge city where a corporate announcement says “reminder, a gunshot wound is no longer basis for time off unless it requires overnight hospitalization…”
this post was submitted on 03 Jan 2025
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"... for time off without an approved request two weeks in advance."
You need to let them know, need to find someone to cover for you, and need a manager to approve the request.
Having a job where you're responsible for dealing with a cover gives me the work ick.
Bro, I'm sick. Take the L and live without me, nothing is my problem today. I can't live on pins and needles about going in when I'm dying just because I can't find a replacement. Or being terrified that my day off might belong to someone else who needs cover.
That's just a hostile workplace imo. The instant I feel like shit I instantly don't gaf at all. Just calling to say I won't be there is already annoying and work-like enough.
Granted I've only had jobs where I was a replaceable cog (well, mostly replaceable-made myself pretty knowledgeable) so it wasn't like I had individual-specific responsibilities and clients that would be put out or anything.
But work life balance kinda depends on not having to only get sick when someone else feels like voluntarily covering. That shit is oppressive af in my eyes.
I literally quit over that kind of thing, on top of a bunch of other issues.
Got really sick on a Tuesday, but I had my laptop and was able to push myself and work half the day before passing out and sleeping 18 of the next 24 hours. I had let my boss and coworkers know I would be trying to work, but was sick and may not be able to do much. Because I slept so long, I was not awake prior to my start time the next day. I was then berated during a meeting with my boss a month later because I didn't let them know I was going to be sick for a second day.
What the fuck am I suppose to do, set an alarm to ensure I wake up in the morning to send a "Hey, still fucking sick." message? If the last thing you hear from me is that I'm sick, chances that it will be true the next day and that is an easy assumption to work off of. Perhaps having no backup to my position, which I had been pushing for since the interview for the job, was a shit plan!
I handed in my resignation the next day; that kind of de-humanizing outlook on employees is not worth the pay.
berated during a meeting with my boss a month later
A MONTH later. I'm willing to bet it didn't even impact anything, and boss wouldn't even have remembered it happened at all if they didn't scribble it down in their little black book.
Good job getting the heck out of there.
I had a boss like this too. Would never just talk to me about any concerns, they would act like everything is fine and then suddenly blindside me with a laundry list of petty complaints they've logged over like 4 months.
All it proved was they spent more time side-eyeing my work and spying on me than doing their actual job. When they weren't wandering off to the other side of the building chatting up other management about nothing, for hours on end, while I handled their job too, alone every day, of course.
Not all people are bad. But the intersection between stupid and evil tends to converge in management.
What is a request for time off? I am informing you I will not be there. There is no request.
Request denied. We are informing you that should you choose to ignore your contractual obligations by neglecting to perform, we will be forced to recover any potential damages because of your actions through binding arbitration. We thank you for being part of the Amazon family and your continued dedication to our family.
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Seeing things like this I find it weird there aren't more Mario bros around in the US.
He was an oddity in America. Most Americans don't have the ability to go from keyboard to action.
They can barely muster enough oxygen to make the thought they need to write down in the first place. America is a bizarre place.
They seem quite able to shoot up schools and run over pedestrians tho
We're currently trying to channel those folks towards more productive shootings.
That’s no more than like 15% of us bro, don’t lump us all in
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weird there aren’t more Mario bros around in the US.
Give it a little more time. When the militia folks realize that they have been had they won't be happy.
They'll just be duped again into how it's the liberal's fault. I've lost my expectation that anyone may follow a course of logic once their mind is set.
Their logic is like "Yeah, our bosses mistreated us! But they're in a tight spot because the invisible economy forced their hand! The market is flooded with mythological job-stealing crime-doing immigrants we've never met, so we understand, boss-man. The democrats will pay for this. Yeah I know you're short staffed we can work extra and not log overtime. One day we'll get to wear the boot! :D"
Lol
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We're burning the wrong Amazon
I still find it crazy its a “request for leave” which they can deny rather than “im not coming in today, I need to go to the hospital”
Request for leave is for longer term absence.
Still shitty
„I am not coming in until at least the xx.xx.xxxx as I am still sick.“
There you go. That’s how it works here. The employer can then collect the doctors confirmation online.
After six weeks it requires a bit more effort, as the employer no longer needs to pay wages and you need to apply for sick pay from the insurance, which is 70% for up to a year and a half.
The very thought of an employer not allowing you to be sick is just ridiculous.
If only workers could band together and use their collective bargaining powers to improve their treatment.
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An Amazon spokesperson told HuffPost on Friday that the denial was due to an error in Scott-Windham’s time off request and said she has the company’s “full support.”
What sort of reasonable "error" could possibly deny something like this?
It’s the “we didn’t expect the news to pick this up and start reporting on it. We don’t want this kind of bad press” error.
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The sort of error that only occurs when it might become bad PR.
The small error that when they decided to violate FMLA laws, they didn't realize anyone was watching.
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"The wrong amazon is burning."
- quoting some comment I read somewhere
If you still use Amazon, you’re supporting this kind of capitalism
Unfortunately it's very difficult not to support Amazon indirectly because they make a lot of their money from AWS, which a large fraction of the internet runs on.
don't let perfect be the enemy of evil. punching back a behemoth corporation whose policies actively hurt people is significantly better than just letting them steamroll you.
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Appropriate, as Amazon is one of the major companies trying to have the NLRB,which gives unions a modicum of pushback against corps, declared "unconstitutional". Id expect a full press on that in the fist year if successful, id expect major portions of the NLRA itself to be targeted.
Lots of blood and sweat and tears of the 19th and 20th century being washed away right now that will have to be shed again to get these rights back.
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This is one of those open and shut FMLA violations that even shitty companies can't get away with though and they know it.
The lady will be canned one way or another once they get back to the office because they violated some bullshit policy about how you can't talk to the press or some bullshit. Will probably take a couple months and involve a PIP for "poor performance"
Very few Amazon warehouse workers qualify for FMLA. They intentionally have a system designed to use up people and spit them out in just under a year so they don't qualify.
There are entire industries of low-skill jobs that intentionally try to keep worker retention low to keep from having to comply with labor laws.
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Even if it's a weird computer or paperwork fluke, it's emblematic of the company, so there's no version of this where they don't go fuck themselves.
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I wouldn't be surprised if an AI handled the schedule.
I mean, yeah it would be on brand to change out a handwritten program that says "If request(leave): deny()" with an AI.
As soon as I read "Alabama", somehow the rest of the news became unsurprising.
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Newsweek is pretty shit, but at least it's not a screenshot of a tweet so thank you.
You can't make this shit up. Reality is so horrible, especially with mega corporations.
I wonder how many lawyers are offering her their services? Because that sounds like a slam dunk lawsuit if I've ever seen one.
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