That won’t happen though because global warming is a myth, and the earth is 6K years old and static.
Wait, why is my house floating away? Why didn’t anyone warn us?!
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Please ocean, stop taking our towns /s
There’s only one thing to do…
BOMB THE OCEAN INTO SUBMISSION!
It will regret the day it messed with FREEDOM!
That's not an opinion, that's a question
Hey remember hurricane Katrina?
Remember how people said that they should have fixed the wall cause they were warned?
I got a feeling that cons are just gonna tell Floridans that they should have moved beforehand.
Sell them to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman!?
I’m so glad I found this quote here. Was also thinking of it
Technically some houses can be moved or stilted, but they need a place to move them to. The government subsidizes flood insurance and they'll keep paying over and over again instead of just making people move somewhere else.
Lmao. New to the US?
No, they are gonna take proper care of them like in Flint, MI.
Yes. We already do that.
Hell, we purposely flooded a ton of abandoned/semi-adandonned towns building the dams out East. They made the movie Deliverance entirely about visiting the area before it got flooded. Of course we'd let nature do it too.
A rare case where betteridge's law is falsified.
whats better I shes law?
That was never actually a law. It just sounds interesting.
I've been curious about this myself, but haven't heard any news to this effect. Can you provide any examples of this happening in the past (preferably within the last 50 years)?
I remember a story from 2024 where some tiny town (forget the name, East coast somewhere) had built a bunch of residential houses in a landslide area and the residents were frustrated that the government wasn't bailing them out. Had some wacky pictures. Maybe it was this one in California? I think it was a different one.
It was 100 years ago, but Bayocean, Oregon a town with 2,000 residents slowly fell into the Pacific Ocean after they tried to mess with the coastline. The last remaining building fell into the ocean in 1971. No attempt to bail out the homeowners at any point.
Disaster strikes, and the homeowners are extremely lucky if we bail them out. Usually we don't.
Those are some interesting reads, and really appreciate the response + resources.
I do feel the attempt to buyout the residents in the CA example is a good move, but it does basically amount to abandoning the town (as the OP seems to think will be the norm. Glad the state is attempting to do something to help, even if it feels like a half measure.
It feels like FEMA (as imperfect as they are) would have been a program that would've helped if a landslide wiped out a town though? Either that or the builders of the township would've had to sign away a bunch of their rights to that as part of building into the area (kinda feels like the case for Bayocean?) if it was known to be disaster prone.
Idk, how does the community feel about building in disaster prone areas? Like, if you want to build a house in a flood zone, I think you should be allowed to do it, but also, you're on your own when a flood comes, ya know?
It’s mostly going to be more than 50 years ago, but we did it a lot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dams_and_reservoirs_in_the_United_States
I don't want to discount the people who lost land and homes due to the creation of dams and reservoirs (My great grandpa purportedly lost his home due to some of this), but that feels really different than losing a coastal town due to rising sea levels.
Obviously from an American perspective, FEMA is very imperfect, but that we have structures and systems like FEMA makes it feel like people in coastal towns that get "washed away" will have some form of safety net to fall back on.
Am I missing something in that assessment?
FEMA doesn’t compensate lost land, and shouldn’t. Towns and cities who want to remain in environmentally unstable places are gonna have to figure that out.
States, towns, and cities could probably use eminent domain to take land that is going to flood too often. That way the owners would get some value and have to move. The problem is that then the rest of us are paying for land that’s going to vanish, and it’s a harder sell than paying for a reservoir.
FEMA doesn't do that? I def agree they shouldn't, but I thought that was one of the things they did.
The eminent domain bit feels like its probably too big for anything smaller than a large city to handle, so seems like states handling that is a good move. Don't suppose you know of any states with any active lines of effort in that direction?
FEMA is only for managing the emergency (usually natural disasters, but it’s also for man made ones like damn breaks or things like the train derailment in Ohio a few years back).
The damage is supposed to be covered by insurance, which is largely private except in places like Florida where most private insurers have left because it’s not ~~wildly profitable~~ viable, and only a public insurer exists.
I don’t know of any states working on this, but MA, Virginia, and North Carolina all have capes and peninsulas full or residents and homes that are at great danger in the future (if not already. Florida is obvious too, but they are actively doing the opposite by incentivizing (and legislating) people to ignore climate change.
According to Ben Shapiro, people will just sell their homes and move inland. 🤦 Never let Ben forget this fact.
Aquaman is really into distressed property I hear.
I feel really stupid in that I read that and thought, "I mean, that makes sense............ohhh wait no it doesn't."
Yes.
Only for the millionaires settlements. All the rest can pay for themselves.
Yeah, the rich will make sure their real estate losses are taken on by society and many will literally profit when one of their homes fall into the sea.
This unfortunately is not a case with much high quality schadenfreude since yet again the rich have made stupid selfish choices and will refuse to face the consequences.
Yes.
Those towns can pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Not your mama.
LOL yeah.
When amoc or Thwaites collapses it isn’t like we are going to have a choice. (The choice has already been made by not radically reducing greenhouse gas emissions)
Yes, and thus shall begin the mass migrations of homeless, hungry and desperate people with nothing to lose.
Unsurprising that this is such a trope of near-future science fiction.
Not near-future science fiction alone, every time of sci-fi but the true far-future science fiction seems to be able to discuss this (if we take near-future to mean within decades), think for example of 2312 or the Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson.
They'll probably bail out Houston; unfortunately
s/bail out/bale out/
We'll simply so what every other human has done when faced with crisis or climate change. We'll move and adapt, some will die, some will live. It will suck, and it's sucked before, but we'll survive, perhaps even thrive.
Comments I've gathered on lemmy:
"I'd rather just die."
"I'll kill myself before I have to suffer."
"Stop having kids you're condemning to eternal torment."
OK, you've failed at evolution. Nothing wrong with that! But the better adapted will live on, as always.
Lemmy: FUCK YOU!
Weird seeing an entire generation just say, "Fuck it. I'll lie down and die. The capitalists and billionaires killed me."