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[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I see a lot of negativity in the comments. And yeah, this thing probably isn’t something I’m going to get, but at least they are trying something that isn’t a generic rectangle of glass like all the others. I miss the days of fun gadgets.

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I like the generic rectangle block of glass.
Don't understand why they insist on a physical keyboard.

[–] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

I don’t mind it, but I also don’t hate that people are trying something new! Maybe it fails, but maybe it’s awesome!

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

i am personally sick of shiny rectangles. physical keyboards are the buttons on your cars dash instead of the shiny rectangle on your car's dash.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 minutes ago

Cars' buttons need to be used while preferably not looking at them, that's a pretty different situation to a smartphone

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Fun useful gadgets. A gadget for the sake of a gadget is just another word for "e-waste".

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Too bad it's packed full of features I don't care about and lacks ones I do.

These handhelds are cool but I think I'll skip this one.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I wonder who this is made for?

The article calls it a "smartphone sized pocket computer", but that describes smartphones too; they already are pocket computers. And they've had decades of design and development behind them.

So... This device has a tiny touchscreen, and a keyboard, rather than having the whole thing being a touchscreen. So instead it has a modular bottom half... Which... Sounds like it's trying to solve a problem that would've been a problem in like... The 90s, maybe, but has been solved by using... A touchscreen that can change the type of input it is flexibly, like smartphones do.

It can't call, like a smartphone, despite being a smartphone sized device. It has USB A 2.0 sockets and an Ethernet socket... Which makes it once again sound incredibly out-dated, like a device found in a time capsule, because USB C is smaller and faster than USB A 2.0, and can potentially be used for damn near anything. Which includes connecting to the Internet.

Its battery looks very weak. Its CPU looks very weak. It has a tiny amount of RAM, and a tiny amount of storage. It is outclassed by any affordable, midrange smartphone, at nearly the same price too (if you avoid big brand names).

[–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

For people who like a concept more than practicality. There’s maybe a handful use cases that this specific device fits in that isn’t covered better by existing tech, but I guarantee if that thing actually gets kickstarted and arrives severely delayed in several years, it’ll show up in a couple YouTube videos with people sort of uncertain what to use it for, and in the vast majority of cases it’ll end up in some drawers after having been used a few hours tops.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

My thoughts exactly. I've seen several such devices already, probably the most expensive and over-designed one being the Apple VR, and it's always the same story.

[–] EmilieEvans@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

This device has a tiny touchscreen, and a keyboard, rather than having the whole thing being a touchscreen.

That's awesome. I still miss my Blackberry Passport (keyboard and large 1:1 screen).

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[–] Michal@programming.dev 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Full-size usb, Ethernet and keyboard mean you can use it as a Linux computer, install arbitrary debian packages, run shell scripts, python scripts, and you don't need any dongles. This is the differential factor. You can't do the same on a smartphone, and it's not supposed to be a smartphone. Why would you need a separate sim card when you can simply tether Internet from your phone?

I get that this device isn't for you, but there are people who don't want to write and maintain apps through apps stores and simply want to copy simple scripts into a small device they can have with them. It's a niche market and good for them for trying to fill that niche.

I wonder what they use for charging port if not usb c...

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can do all that with USB C and a touch keyboard. There is no good reason under the sun to make a device that is this dated in concept.

Whatever the market is they're trying to fill, it'll be so extremely niche that this product is already a failure. It's not the first time some kind of ultra niche product from kickstarter failed before launch because except for a small handful even cared.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

How do you install utilities like kubectl and azure CLI on Android?

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

this would have been really cool 15 years ago

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Funny story. LG made something with a similar concept about 10 years ago and it never really took off. The LG G5 was a modular smart phone that was supposed to have a bunch of cool modules, but they never came to fruition.

I had one, but mostly because I loved having a swappable battery. Never had to charge my phone, I would just have a spare battery charging on my desk and I would swap it out before I left the house.

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Basically Android is Linux but......in weirdest way if i must say.
Now....we just need to make it modular right....????

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

3gb RAM? 32gb emmc? This feels a bit like a raspberry pi project. Up the specs at least 6gb to at least no[t look like yet another microdeck with emulators, please... I like the concept, but as is, it leaves plenty to be desired

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 2 points 4 hours ago

Netbooks need to come back with modern hardware.

If I need an ultra-portable computer one in a usable form factor would be amazing.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 12 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

It looks cool and all, but its probably going to have like 400mb of ram and an rp2040 like every other linux handheld device.

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I would really love a return to a concept where you have a tablet that docks into a full size laptop form factor. Even better if the dock can have a graphics card.

[–] abaddon@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Agree. Sometimes I want a tablet, sometimes a laptop but I don't need or want 2 separate devices of that size. I recall quite a few Android projects (Mirabook, Project Linda) that would use a phone with a laptop dock but I'd prefer a phone as a standalone device and a secondary, larger & more powerful, device that can have multiple forms.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

yeah I also don't want android.

[–] abaddon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Was just using that as an example. It would be great to see a Linux device with this capability. I have played around with a few Linux phones and convergence was a feature that received attention so I think there's hope.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 8 hours ago

really feel framework is perfect for this. Make the screen a tablet. Have the additional graphics and hard drive on the base. Actually the microsoft surface book was basically what I want but with a company that sells it with linux and supports it with their company distro.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Microsoft still make the surface pro

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 57 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Can I just send you five years worth of „we’re sorry we’re behind schedule” messages and then ghost you instead? If so send me $159

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

My first thought: If this ever ships, I'll eat an outboard motor.

[–] 737@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

the specs and the execution (2cm thick) seem reasonably bad, so i do think its pretty reasonable to manufacture in a small batch at that price

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