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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Microsoft recently announced a handheld for Xbox. They’re going to half ass this they way they did with windows phone.

https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/08/xbox-handheld-details-emerge-ces-microsoft-talks-windows-integration-22321335/

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

If it ran SteamOS, I'd have died laughing.

[–] __nobodynowhere@startrek.website 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They are always late to the party and they have an image problem

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And they haven't managed to come up with a decent product in decades.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (6 children)

I like some of their developer products that said... Wtf is with their marketing department? I'm a techy and play some games but if someone asked me to buy them a Xbox I honestly don't know which one is best... Xbox one series S? I think??

Now atleast on Playstation I know it's ps5 as it's the biggest number.

You want Nintendo... Switch as it's a different enough name to make it stick.

Imagine going to but a truck... Do you want a Ford f150, a Ford f150 series x or a ford f150 series s? Now keep in mind a Ford f150 can't go on any roads built in last 5 years and if you pick the wrong series letter your speed is capped at 30mph....

Don't get me started on visual studio vs visual studio code....

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[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hey! I use bing sometimes, just to keep things a bit spicy.

Edit: oh, nevermind. Bing is 15 years old. I should probably look into retirement homes..

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think Microsoft has ever understood or cared how much pc gaming has added value to windows.

Which makes the strategic defeat here of failing to understand they are fucked longterm all the more satisfying.

[–] __nobodynowhere@startrek.website 37 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Microsoft understood in the 90s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2V9TFrmQ_Q

St. John recognized the resistances for game development under Windows would be a limitation, and recruited two additional engineers, Craig Eisler and Eric Engstrom, to develop a better solution to get more programmers to develop games for Windows. The project was codenamed the Manhattan Project, like the World War II project of the same name, and the idea was to displace the Japanese-developed video game consoles with personal computers running Microsoft's operating system.

To get more developers on board DirectX, Microsoft approached id Software's John Carmack and offered to port Doom and Doom 2 from MS-DOS to DirectX, free of charge, with id retaining all publishing rights to the game. Carmack agreed, and Microsoft's Gabe Newell led the porting project. The first game was released as Doom 95 in August 1996, the first published DirectX game. Microsoft promoted the game heavily with Bill Gates appearing in ads for the title.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It's kind of wild how much Microsoft failed to capitalize on PC gaming over the last 20 years. Arguably PC Gaming has thrived in spite of them, not because of them.

Valve was smart to understand how Microsoft could threaten their business model but it barely mattered considering how many rakes Microsoft stepped on over the years. Don't even get me started on Games For Windows Live.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 0 points 10 hours ago

Microsoft prevented PC gaming from dying and moved the industry from "sometimes there are pc games" to "occasionally there is a platform exclusive other than Nintendo". That was all Xbox. Valve did a much better job of sitting back and raking in 30% for their glorified downloader, but the games existed because of the compatibility efforts of Xbox.

[–] TheWilliamist@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

It doesn’t make them money. Most of Microsoft is focused on business, enterprise, add AI. Everything edge is just part lip service.

[–] ineffable@sh.itjust.works 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

"Microsoft's Gabe Newell"

Lol

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 23 points 23 hours ago

He left Microsoft almost immediately after Doom 95 was released specifically because he didn't like the direction Microsoft was going.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

Unrelated tidbit gleaned from reading the entry:

the name "DirectX" came from one journalist that had mocked the naming scheme of the various libraries. The team opted to continue to use that naming scheme and call the project DirectX.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 70 points 1 day ago (42 children)

I hope that SteamOS finds more of its way into desktop computers. Sure, I don't trust Valve; just like I don't trust any other corporation. But it's like fighting a big cancer with a smaller meta-cancer, if they hurt Windows/Microsoft I'm happy.

Plus its current relationship with GNU/Linux is symbiotic.

[–] rosa666parks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago

Valve is the chemotherapy/radiation to Microsoft. Not quite a cure but both are still deadly.

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[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 54 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Steam needs to drop a whole OS for PC.

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)
[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

~~Note that the SteamOS download on that page is NOT the current version of SteamOS used on the Steam Deck, it's the 2-3 year old version that Valve released a while back and doesn't have most any of the actual improvements to SteamOS that make it worthwhile. The only way to get the current SteamOS is to download the recovery image for the Steam Deck at https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/1B71-EDF2-EB6D-2BB3 and install from there.~~

Linus from LTT did a video about getting it up and running here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdR-bxvQKN8

EDIT: As per usual, Linus didn't do good research and was incorrect about the SteamOS version available at that link, updated to strike the incorrect info.

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 17 hours ago

Seems like the instructions are still for SteamOS 2, they mention a file named “SteamOS.zip” while you get a file bzip archive of an img file

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Yeah, Linus didn't actually bother clicking the links. The old OS download links redirect to the arch based steam deck os

[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah, Linus didn’t actually bother clicking the links.

Ya know, somehow I'm not surprised to hear LTT didn't do their research

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why anyone ever watched their garbage videos is beyond me.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

SteamOS 3.0 should get out there for generic PCs pretty soon, in the meantime there's Bazzite.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope they bring SteamOS to ARM eventually.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

It’d be great, but they haven’t even ported the Steam desktop client to 64-bit x86 yet*, I feel like we’re going to wait a while for that.

* and that’s not even true, they were forced to port it for the Mac, so they’re just sitting on the 64 bit builds for the other OSes for some reason

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