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Propaganda leaflets dropped by Ukrainian drones over places where North Korean soldiers are hiding or moving in the Kursk region.

As we can see, Ukrainian UAV operators are aiming not only at the heads of DPRK mercenaries, but also at their new phobias - in the form of drones.

At the same time, giving them a choice: to surrender, escape from this horror and get a chance at a new life, or to die ingloriously and inevitably from an FPV drone or cluster munition.

Translation of the inscription: "Don't die in vain! Surrender is the way to survive."

https://t.me/russianocontext/5764

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The year is 2038. Korean-Ukrainian food is a hit new global phenomenon, drawing tourism to the region of "Little Korea" in Ukraine where the sounds of accordion music fills the air and you can pose to have a statuette made. The people live in peace since they defected from the Russian invaders en masse.

[–] Juigi@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

I dont know but north korea openly sending their troops to help russians seems a bit unfair. EU time to wake up!

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Sadly, they are not proper merceneries. A mercenary fights for money, but those guys probably know their families will be repressed if they surrender.

If I was the developer of the propaganda leaflet, I would add one sentence (after double-checking with a competent social engineer):

  • "you get a new identity, at home they will think you died"

AFAIK Russia doesn't count their dead soldiers very carefully so it is quite likely that they will label everyone as dead when they go missing.

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 108 points 5 days ago (3 children)

They should say "We have food, liquor and porn".

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, but Zelenskyy poops out of his butt. Gross.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I have never LOLed so hard at a comment so stupid. 07

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Attach one of those magic deserting cookies to it (c.f the koreean whi defected because if 1 cookie).

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 81 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is a very good example of something that i identify as 100% propaganda but still agree with. Dont die in vain, surrender. Another pointless fucking massacre russia started.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Dont die in vain, surrender.

They won't. The ones with families will likely rather die than surrender and I'd bet my cat that they only picked North Koreans with families. "Treacherous" North Koreans will have their entire families put in death camps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_punishment#North_Korea

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Inb4 the tankies denying that such a thing exists.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well now i dont just want kim to die but i want him to suffer a horrible death

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

up to eight generations

extends to children born in prison

So there's like some kids being born on those camps who get told they're they're because great-great-great-great-great-grandpa was a political enemy of the government.

I lean not yet three aren't, because NK isn't that old yet, but...

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[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How will the NK govt know they surrendered and that they didn't just go missing, get obliterated by an explosive, or something else?

[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Ummm.... they get their picture on the news? https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjdek713d0xo

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Bad choice for fanatics. Can't they drop something that makes it obvious how their regime abused them, then offer them better living conditions?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

you always start by dislodging who will be easiest to dislodge: youthful critical thinkers who |aybe think this is all a sham. i agree that this is imperfect messaging, but i also presume some discussion went into that north koreans have almost zero media literacy for anything outside north korea by design, so you have to start with something that looks familiar to all of them to start getting the more pliable minds across the battle lines and start talking about what could work

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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 59 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I like that they used the old Communist style of esthetic to make it relatable to the Korean. Wonder what the art style is called

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I was gonna say brutalist stencil style

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 days ago

Just imagine the silliness of military recruiting GenZ kids into wars by using anime girls.

Oh wait.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I think the should also drop usb sticks with libraries full of basic facts that NK soldiers may have never seen.

Perhaps occasionally a cheap e-reader as well. Can't inform them when theyre in NK, but now that they're there and youre already dropping leaflets, might be useful to try to deprogram them as well.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 33 points 4 days ago (13 children)

libraries full of ~~basic facts~~ porn

Perhaps occasionally ~~a cheap e-reader~~ 50 gallon drums of hard alcohol.

If they don't get seduced into surrendering, they have a higher chance of getting caught with their pants down.. Regardless, I see it as a great way to cause confusion and disorder, anyway.

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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cram as much porn into old smartphones and drop those.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Since porn is pretty quickly produced, we need to get a new sub category of porn where Western actors teach democratic history while having orgies

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Finally, I can use my Sexy Ben Franklin At the Beach cosplay for good and not evil.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 32 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Have any North Korean soldiers surrendered or allowed themselves to be taken prisoner? I recall that there was a heavily wounded soldier who was captured but later died of his wounds, but I haven't heard about any other such incidents.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 31 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I believe most of em are so effectively brainwashed/family threatened that they put a grenade under their chin.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Imagine traveling to another country to help the invading force try to capture it...

[–] Acemod@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

As far as I'm currently aware the NK meat shields are only deployed in the Kursk Oblast.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't think they will consider surrendering to a ~~pack~~ flight of drones a good idea.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

Consider this. A drone you didn't spot drops this on your feet.

Next drone might drop a grenade.

I would surrender.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes. The protocol of "how to surrender" would also be useful to add.

Obviously, one cannot surrender to an FPV drone - it doesn't have enough battery for the pilot to check if one follows through with the promise.

Throwing down all weapons, raising a white cloth and walking towards the opposing side might be a good enough signal for the pilot however - they might go looking for another target before the battery runs out.

For the leaflet to achieve results, it must lay out a good method of how to surrender. And that's a lot easier with Russians since they have a language which Ukrainians understand.

To Russians, one can write "go to frequency X MHz, drop encryption and negotiate surrender" or "go to Telegram channel X to arrange surrender" but no such hope with North Koreans.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've seen a handful of Ukraine war shots.

There's a bunch where poor Russian conscripts drop their rifles and surrender to a drone, and the drone "flies" them to a nearby base.

The alternative being the drone being the last thing you ever see.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I can confirm, it happened a few times in Kursk, I've seen the videos.

However, the drone in question was a reconnaisance drone (those have long flight times). Ideally, you never see a reconnaisance drone - it sees you from beyond visual range well enough.

I believe the situation in Kursk was that Ukrainians deliberately sent a reconnaisance drone to take a close look, and perhaps also dropped a few leaflets. Russians then understood that their coordinates were known, they had no shelter available and a strike might come any second - and made the gestures to indicate surrender.

It also helped that the Russians in question were conscripts - young people undergoing military training. Support for the war is the lowest among this age group.

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Oof these are genuinely terryfying looking images, pretty effective propaganda

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago

I like the artstyle

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