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[–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I might be killed, but seeing the comments i feel like lemmy is getting too into the zone of umm like judging the action based on the person instead of judging the action/statement itself, yeah the US gov is a piece of shit, and also they probably don't have the peoples best interest in mind, but the act of banning tiktok, according to me, is a right move, i can see nd myself have felt the humongous mental impact it has on teens (like me) basically killing their attention span, and making them feel like they need to pick up their phone, heck kids cant read 10pages from their physics book, infact reading a page only thoroughly is a tough task for most of them, and i m not talking abt a few select cases, i can see this in 95% of kids (this is anecdotal tho), ever since i stopped using reels/tiktoks/shorts, i can feel my mind improving

Also the whole slew of misinformation and propaganda tiktok is, is another issue

Again I agree with ppl that the US doesn’t hv the ppls best interest, but i do feel this might help atleast some ppl break their addiction, so many I know are aware they r addicted but can’t stop, banning the app altogether might help

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't use tiktok because I don't want to get addicted personally, and I know a few people who borderline are.

That's not the point though, not the real one anyway. Even if this ban was going through with good intentions, it doesn't actually solve anything. Everyone will just find a new PRISM-compatable app to get addicted to. The government's "action/statement itself" is precisely the problem. If they passed a law that forbid certain addicting behaviors, and TikTok ran afoul of that law, then I'd likely be in support, because it bans those behaviors in general. But that's not what's happening here, instead the government is targeting the individual company, so it's pretty clear to me that the cited privacy and addiction concerns are only an excuse. Don't take this combatively, I just think this is important, but I think that ironically you're the one who needs to separate the action from the actors. I think you're underestimating how dangerous a precedence this sets.

[–] respectmahauthoritybrah@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago

Hmm i get ur argument, but still i do believe that banning that app will still have some net positive impact, i understand that this doesn’t really fix the problem by its root, maybe i m biased, but i just want the people around me to get a chance to get off that app, thats why banning it, while i agree with not with so good intentions, still might give some sort of positive impact on people who cant concentrate on anything for more than a minute, i just don't jive well with the mentality here that the ban in nd of itself is wrong, i understand tho that the US has its own interests and doesn’t give many fcks abt ppl

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[–] Lulzagna@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It wasn't. There's zero proof of this currently.

The app is banned because congress can't control. They want you using the platforms where you can't become class or politically aware.

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[–] hark@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Can someone explain to me how it's worse for a foreign government to have your information than your own government having that same information? Your own government is far more likely to actually be able to do something about you.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Foreign governments are supposed to buy information from American social media companies. Tik Tok cut out the middleman so they're getting banned.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Yup, much better to let a foreign evil government have your data than the local evil government that actually has control where you live.

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It probably won't make a difference for you, but if you worked in a government facility and they're spying on you, obtaining credentials, obtaining information on infrastructure in the energy sector, government facilities, etc., getting network credentials, getting floorplans, getting times where a changing of the guard occurs, etc. - any foreign entity can use that info to tear a country down from the inside and kick off a full scale war.

Local government isn't going to self-saborage with that information. Yeah, spying on the citizens is awful and we should avoid any apps/devices that do that too, but that's not as bad as war unless it gets so bad that it gets to a point of civil war which seems unlikely.

inb4 tankies claim "conspiracy":
China hacked US Telecom Infrastructure
China hacking US Treasury
Two recent events I was able to dig up fairly quickly. Wouldn't be surprised if there's more. Apparently they tapped Trump's phone too, but not sure how credible the article/source is.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Disinformation.

TikTok has been under control of the State Dept for years, since TikTok transferred custody of US servers to Oracle. The ban is to force a sale to a US competitor, and decrease transparency on censorship activities, especially regarding Palestine and pro-communism material.

https://www.mintpressnews.com/tiktok-chinese-trojan-horse-run-by-state-department-officials/284353/

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Not a credible source.

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[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

This.

Not a big fan of Tik Tok but fuck this fedposting bootlicker OP.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Imagine cheering that your government decided witch social media are you allowed to use.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Gross to see this kind of disinformation on Lemmy. Too bad freedom and open information lost in a major way. This will be a dark day in history. Nobody benefits except the genociders.

[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (18 children)

There is sooooo much weird conspiracy shit in these comments. The government is banning TikTok becuase they collect too much data and the Chinese government could eaisly get access to all of it. The correct thing to do would be to regulate data collection but that would be problematic for Google, Meta, Microsoft, Apple..etc etc... so instead they just ban TikTok. All this TikTok refusing to spread deep state US govt propaganda horse shit is a bit past nuts.