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Technically it’s for any printer capable of printing a firearm or the components of a firearm, which is…. every printer. What a bafflingly stupid proposal. If you’re in NY, please call your reps and tell them to oppose this bill.

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[–] Cool_Name@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone go ahead and trademark the term "ghost printer."

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[–] azdle@news.idlestate.org 125 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
  1. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "THREE-DIMENSIONAL PRINTER" MEANS A COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL

Well, that's a broad definition. I guess to whomever wrote that, a CNC mill is also a 3d printer.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's not like inkjets produce 2 dimensional ink. I'd love to see someone argue in court that it's technically impossible to create a non 3d printer

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure there are actual industrial multicolor 3d printers that use an inkjet design

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[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 48 points 1 day ago (9 children)

A CNC mill seems much more capable of manufacturing firearms than some 300 buck printer.

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[–] spitfire@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Some actual gun control laws would be better, not to mention universal health care. What’s next on the list? Kitchen knives? Pans, pots? ;)

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Awful. Literally banning science, because it can be misused.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

We'd better go the full mile. Here's my list of things to be banned, For Our Safety^TM^:

  • 3/4" and 1" galvanized steel pipe and endcaps
  • Cases of matches
  • Acetone
  • Stump killer
  • Milling machines
  • Lathes
  • Drill presses
  • Hydrogen peroxide
  • Salt, Sodium Chloride
  • Stainless steel bolts
  • Benchtop power supplies
  • Sulfur
  • Carbon
  • Water
  • Aluminum foil

I'm sure I can think of others if you give me a minute or two.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How stupid, I use my printer to print minis for DnD. But, wait, it could theoretically print a gun, better get a background check, and have a waiting period of 6 months... fucking stupid.

Let's try to address the problems that led to this. Nah, let's try to ban stuff instead.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It won't even be effective. As I pointed out earlier, hoodlums in the ghetto, who are the implicit targets of this, aren't buying Bambus and becoming 3D printing experts overnight just to run off one off-the-books Glock. Someone with five or six brain cells to rub together is printing guns in quantity and selling them to the criminals. Anyone willing to employ that business model can and will simply kit build a printer rather than buying an off the shelf unit, which is certainly not difficult to do. It just adds one extra step to the operation for anyone who truly wants to do this, and 3D printing a working firearm is already a pretty decent commitment especially if you're not already an experienced printer. Especially Glock frames.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Ehhh typically the hood gunsmith is the guy with a 10 stack of braincells, who gets an ender and becomes decent enough with it to print a lower, slap a cheap nbs parts kit in it and finish it with an even-cheaper-than-PSA upper, and sell it for $200 to anyone he knows, rinse and repeat. Really makes his money printing switches and DIAS.

Still though, stupid law.

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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 day ago (10 children)

You can also technically make a gun with generic plumbing supplies or you could finagle one with random garbage and a drill bit.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Home Depot background checks are next.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

"Papers, Please"

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

You can fuck someone up real good with a 2X4 ( pronounced two be fore ). Yet I haven't had to pay for a 2x4 ownership license.

You can also really fuck someone up with a big bag of shit...be it actual shit or rocks or concrete or just a bunch of shit from Good will (which could included actual shit). Where do we apply for big bags of shit at the DMB?

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[–] einkorn@feddit.org 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)
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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Anything to avoid having to actually address the systemic poverty and bigotry ingrained in the system that leads to violence...

From what I understand the "problem" as it's being framed in terms of ghost guns and inner city crime or whatever the buzzword is this year is not hobbyists running off a lower or frame for themselves. None of those guys in the hood and their switches are buying Bambus or building Vorons and suddenly turning into 3D printing gurus -- Someone, or several someones more likely, are deliberately mass manufacturing these things for sale to the criminals which is already thoroughly illegal. Find the gun runners and stomp on them. I thought you guys were supposed to have this big scary police force and surveillance apparatus?

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 9 points 1 day ago

I’m a hobbyist 3D printer and I can barely get my minis to print half decently, never mind a functional firearm

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[–] spitfire@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How much harder would it be than getting an actual gun?

[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Road trip to Georgia and back, basically.

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[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABpc_oPToQQ

This video shows the stupidity of new york

"Printed guns" by " tipsy duck"

Oh my god it's back? I was hoping we'd seen the last of it back in 2023.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Gonna require background checks to get plumbing supplies or to go to the hardware store? Cause I can make a gun a hell of a lot easier and quicker with that shit, than I can with a 3d fuckin printer.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is absolutely the best action we could take to address the gun violence problem.

[–] korendian@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tighten background checks for guns: ✋ Tighten background checks for 3d printers: 👀

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"People are 3d printing guns, should we require background checks on the required barrels/trigger mechanisms/ammo/magazines/rails etc?

No! We should require checks on the universal machine that can among a billion other things manufacture the plastic parts!"

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

~~Keep in mind that this is a state that bans nunchuks.~~

Never mind, NY banned nunchuks in 1974 but then in 2018 a federal court decided that New Yorkers have a 2nd amendment right to nunchuks.

Maybe there's a constitutional right to keep and bear 3D printers too? If your life is in danger, you can use the concealed printer you're carrying to make a gun and then defend yourself with that gun.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't worry, my state considers throwing stars to be "assault weapons" now and their sale and possession is banned. There's still stupidity abound if you care to look hard enough.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

their sale and possession is banned

How will I assassinate the Shogun now?!

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

How about one regarding healthcare affordability? We can deal with 3D printed stuff later?

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