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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Can someone with knowledge on Hinduism explain a bit?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

Hindus believe in a universal consciousness, of which there are many facets which manifest deities such as Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva, but there are dozens, and their wives. People pray to one for financial matters, another for health, and another for happiness.

Ultimately though, the peak of divinity is not asking for anything, but contemplating the divine spirit, the universal consciousness and accepting that he is within uus, and we are within him, and that our lives are karma-bound, and benevolence towards others regardless of our station in life is the only goal and the only way to move up the karmic ladder towards eventual oneness with the UC. Yogis believe they can speedrun the karmic ladder, for want of a better term.

Full disclosure, I'm a hon-hindu white boy

Edit: The audiobook Everyday Gita, by Sunita Pant Bansal is an excellent, down to earth, non-preachy guide to Hinduism and my main source for this description. I don't agree with everything in it, as it defends the indian caste system and seems to defend capitalism and tolerates billionaires, but it's still a useful text/audiobook

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 hours ago

The way that someone explained it to be once is that if we think about the typical monotheistic, omnipotent, omniscient God — surely a God would be far more than what humans can comprehend at all, right? So any single characterisation of God is going to seem weirdly limited, because it'll be grounded in our human perspective. So the idea is sort of like God(TM) is like a diamond, and each of the Hindu Gods is like a facet of that gem. The problem is that our human perspectives can't understand the diamond (similar to how visualising 4D shapes like a tesseract is trippy and hard) so we have to try to understand the diamond by looking at each of its facets and trying to imagine an entity that can be all of those things at once.

As someone who is neither Hindu or Christian, it reminds me of the Holy Trinity: that God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

Hindu lore hosts many characters, but in actuality they believe in only one god, the godhead that you are i.e. the universe, man, life, existence is all one thing and you're it.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 25 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Not just Catholics. Father, son, holy spirit, Satan, but just one god, amirite?

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

One god, multiple personalities. They didn't have schizophrenia medication back then.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 20 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I’m guessing you don’t come from a region that has been historically Abrahamic. I’m secular myself but it’s interesting that you would throw Satan in there with the rest.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

I do, and I'm not sure why what I said would make you think otherwise. The way Satan is popularly depicted today makes him indistinguishable from the "evil gods" of other religions.

[–] galanthus@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well, the way Satan is depicted in pop culture has little to do with actual christianity, and I am not sure why you felt the need to include him, despite the fact he is a very minor character in christianity, and also even in the popular depiction he is not nearly on the same level, as he was created by God, is not omnipotent, omniscient, unlike God, etc.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 5 points 8 hours ago

Listen to Evangelicals rant about Satan. They won't say he's on the same level,. but they act like he is.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Back when I still went to (Catholic) Church I don't remember ever hearing about Satan/the devil/Lucifer/whatever

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

Catholics don't tend to obsess over him like Evengelicals, that's for sure.

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Older versions of the Bible contain references to "Hades" which was changed to "hell" in the King James Version.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

True if all of your knowledge of religion comes from pop culture I can see how someone might see it that way.

Like in Family Guy or other Seth Rogan shows Satan, Jesus and “God” are all depicted as equals bickering.

Thanks for your thoughts here. They’re interesting.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Yes yes, it's actually a fallen angel, servant of god. Same animal, different cloth.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 1 points 10 hours ago

No pop culture needed, just listen to Evangelicals. To hear them tell it, Satan is this huge powerful force that meddles in human affairs constantly.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

American Christianity has very little to do with the Bible.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I mean Americans do a lot of dumb stuff. And I don’t think we need to make every thread American centric.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 10 points 13 hours ago

American christianity is basically zoroastrianism

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe that one god is just plural

[–] TomAwsm@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine religious people realizing God's pronouns are actually they/them

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 hours ago

I do know an Anglican priest-in-training who refers to God with They/Them pronouns because thinking of God in a monogender way is weird to them. This apparently isn't particularly controversial within their mini community, although there was a big argument once when someone suggested that capitalised pronouns (such as He/Him or They/Them) technically means God uses neopronouns

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

And a few dotzen tin gods and holy requisites.

[–] 4oreman@lemy.lol 1 points 11 hours ago

no ; its just satan

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 51 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not catholic, but I do like the fact that artillery has its own patron saint.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'll tell you the same thing I told a friend that was too deep into W40K: you can enjoy the characters without making the lore a central part of your life!

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

I want you to know that I'm screenshotting this comment (and the one you're replying to) to send to a friend, who will find it very funny.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 42 points 16 hours ago

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 38 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

For all Protestants bang on about hell and the devil, they are well on their way to paganism too.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We all just want cool lore

[–] dragonfucker 6 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Too bad it was stolen from Greek lore

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 15 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

All religions steal from prior religions, it's all about who makes up the best story. The best religious memes survive and spread.

[–] dragonfucker 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

An all-loving god sentencing sinners to eternal damnation is bad writing. Plus it ethically justifies ANY atrocity if the atrocity is done in service of converting ONE sinner. One person going to hell is worse than a million holocausts. A Christian who believes in hell can justify doing anything to "save souls". Conversion therapy, witch burnings, crusades... If it keeps one person out of hell, it was worth it. That's not a good mindset.

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It's about conversion, control, and propagation of religious ideas. It isn't about making the nicest fairytale.

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

This is so true! There was a true Cambrian explosion of holy men and mystics in the first century in the eastern Roman Empire. Christianity was the one that out-competed them all. The best brain worm. The two thousand year meme.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

That the Greeks stole from Egyptians and Phoenicians.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Hey they impressed the west early. No hope or chance when we're trying to aspire to Olympus

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Hinduism is a very diverse religion. There are polytheistic, monotheistic, pantheism and many more under that umbrella

[–] cypherix93@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Choose your own deity kinda situation

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Not exactly. For some yes but that's the polytheistic part. Different from (early) Judaism, monotheistic Hinduism isn't "my God is the only one" but more like "the god we already agreed to be one of the main gods is actually the only one and the others are expressions of this one or lesser beings". There are 2 or 3 candidates for that but all are very canonically important in all of Hinduism. There is still a lot of diversity and it's more about which school you belong to. I think some have a more abstract way where it's not a specific god but more the dualistic idea of a Big Other if that makes sense. There are also non dualistic schools which fit more into pantheism (god=universe). I simply a lot and I'm already no expert. Let's Talk Religion has a good series on YouTube about Hinduism.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

There are 2 or 3 candidates for that

I've never heard that. I've always heard that Brahman = God, the Trimurti (Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma) are the three main "aspects", and every other "god" is a further "subdivision" thereof.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago

But if you choose wrong you get beaten. Religion is cool like that.