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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

Without having done my research, this feels like a lack of data more than anything.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I want to see the map with 20-30 and 30-40 too!

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

I want to see a map with % of high school equivalency.

I am part of the original map though, I only have an associates

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 47 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

This is somewhat a "people live in cities" graph, but not as stark of one I expected. Not all big cities are so educated, plus there are a lot of rural places that draw in a surprising number of people with advanced degrees.

Still, I'm amused that Interstate 29 in specific lights up like a string of Christmas lights.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 8 hours ago

Yeah. It is interesting that Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Miami aren't on here while Salt Lake City, Denver, and Atlanta are very visible.

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oklahoma only has 1 county lit up, and it's where a state university is, OSU. But it's ranked lower nationally than OU (#196 vs #132). Both are in otherwise small towns, basically overrun by their respective colleges. Anecdotally, Norman (OU) is known to have nothing in town, but Stillwater (OSU) has it's own subculture and town pride.

I'm curious how many of these counties just contain college towns vs how many actually might attract highly educated people.

[–] pshyco_sain@midwest.social 1 points 8 hours ago

Norman is effectively a suburb of OKC. Also it's by county so all the stuff actually closer to OKC will out weigh the college town there.

It does appear to be mostly college towns and some high education cities though

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Based on the states I know, some of the surprising rural areas are where state universities are.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

"People live in cities and get degrees in college towns" map.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

I live in such a place. You'd think it would be a bluish county because of it, but it's deeply red.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 54 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Neat data, but it seems like starting the coloring at 40% is really high.

I'm curious what this would look like if they counted counties with 25% and above degree requirements.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

not really, that's roughly the percentage for the entire population of the country.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Exactly. The less educated population matters just as much as the more educated. Those people are not represented in this map.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Why would they be? The map is clearly not about that information. That would be a map titled “percent people 25+ WITHOUT a bachelor’s degree.”

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

here's all the counties by education attainment. high school, 4-year college, graduate/professional degree.

source of the visuals:
www.smartick.com/data/visualizing-the-most-and-least-educated-counties-in-america/

using data from the census:
https://www.census.gov/data/developers/data-sets/acs-5year.html

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 1 points 7 hours ago

Other than the obvious typo on the top chart, this is really interesting information.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

And those are the people that the democrats ignored.

[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 29 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Whycome the south doesn't has orange boxes? Is we stupid?

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 28 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 14 hours ago

No I ain’t

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

NC and TN have some. But we often is.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

Eeeyup. I done good at readin, ritin, and rithmetic, but then they got ritin in thuh rithmetic and it all went ta hell. I'm plenty smart without that book learnin anyway.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Mississippi making Arkansas and Louisiana look bad.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

One can see the impact of the Yellowstone national park quite clearly.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 1 points 5 hours ago

I was wondering what that was.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 18 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Same with Los Alamos Labs in NM. That orange spot has more PhDs per Capita than anywhere else in the states.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Cambridge, Massachusetts might be its rival

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

If you are wondering what that red spot in Wyoming ans adjacent green in Idaho is, they are the Teton counties (one on each state).

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, Teton County is easy to understand although I do question how they have a higher percentage than Albany County. What I'm really wondering about though is that orange county in South Western Colorado. WTF is that about?

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

San Miguel County. There isn't too much there, but it does have Telluride, a very posh ski town. If I had to guess, I would say the less-educated staff (hotel housekeeping, restaurant servers, lift operators, etc) are only there seasonally but business owners/managers and maybe some remote workers are there permanently, skewing things a bit?

I would LOVE to see a better answer than mine!

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I'm pretty sure this is the answer. That county is super sparsely populated, outside of Telluride. Telluride is a mini Aspen, so is populated by wealthy (and thus usually educated) people.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

I live near Indianapolis.

You wouldn't now it.

Edit: Ironically, I made a spelling typo. Sigh.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It appears that the red county is Hamilton County, not Marion County.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

Could be. Hard to tell when it's that small. Still doubtful.

[–] Haus@kbin.earth 2 points 14 hours ago

In 1911, the Hoosier State House came within one vote of rounding 'k' off to backspace.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Why only count people older than 25?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It filters out college towns with large masters and doctorate programs.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That's a good point, need to control for students. Wouldn't 25 year olds still be in school for their doctorates though?

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 1 points 5 hours ago

Wouldn't 25 year olds still be in school for their doctorates though?

Yes, I think that's the point


they skew the numbers upwards.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Because otherwise the data would be artificially lower in areas with more children.

For example, imagine a suburb in Utah filled with college educated software engineers with big Mormon families. If you count the kids, it might look like people there don't have degrees.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

Doesn't a bachelor's take 4-5 years, with people starting around 18-19? I guess we're only talking about a year or two so the higher age is to help cut down on the noise (doubt there's many people with bachelor's dying before 25 to skew the results)

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Below 25 it depends on how fast you finish your studies whether you own a bachelor's degree yet or not.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Because my toddler shouldn't affect this map

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 points 14 hours ago

Counties with colleges have a higher amount of college degrees, neat

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Like many maps, this is just a map of cities

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Ah yes, look, there's Phoenix, Miami, las Vegas...oh

[–] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago

Houston, Little Rock, Orlando...

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -1 points 7 hours ago

Did I say “all cities?”