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[–] Gelcube69@reddthat.com 18 points 18 hours ago
[–] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

What Elon did was a nazi salute, and Elon is a nazi.

Back in the early days of Trump 1.0, I was accused of accidentally making a nazi salute. I raised a pint glass in cheers with no open palm (a drinking glass was in my hand). This wasn't a nazi salute, but people were so keyed up to overreact and attack their friends and coworkers that it didn't matter.

People are not taking Elon's salute seriously because our society has lost its ability to take such accusations seriously. People remember the overreaction and baseless accusations being flung between people who should have had solidarity in Trump 1.0, and that undermines trust in similar claims today. This jadedness gives cover for the actual mask-off nazism in Trump 2.0.

People are so used to finding out that an accused nazi salute from the clickbait article was just someone trying to say cheers or making an awkward hand gesture that it takes extra evidence now to convince them that the AfD-supporting billionaire that just bought an election actually did a full nazi salute starting from the chest with no other justification (and then repeated it).

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[–] AllOutOfBubbleGum@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 6 points 18 hours ago

Thank you for posting a side by side comparison. Really makes it clear it was a nazi salute.

[–] Anegro_Montoya@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How fucking scary is it that the richest person in the world is a fucking nazi piece of shit and now one of our supreme leaders? If you ask the people around me, "meh."

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Honestly none of them strike me as true adherents. They just go whichever direction looks like it will give them more power or money. If there is a next administration or some BLM like cause comes back in vogue you'll see them out there preaching to that choir as if they had always supported that cause.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

While I agree most of them do whatever they believe will result in more money and power, BLM was a leftist cause so the only time they would support it (or anything inherently leftist) is if their propaganda magically started to fail and their base rejected them over their stance.

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[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's because he's the type of moron that shoots himself cleaning his own gun.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Are you referring to the loser neo-Nazi Oath Fucking Keeper? That is how the dipshit lost his eyeball.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's really important to remind people who are defending Musk what he was doing in Germany just a few days before this salute.

He was fucking defending Nazis.

This salute was no accident.

Even Musk hasn't claimed it was an accident.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

No, they do it so we talk about it instead of the actually dangerous executive orders etc.

And damn is it working exactly as intended because, like my sister when she was 10, we can't help but take the bait.

[–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago

With no intention to defend Elon Musk.... Jude Bellingham doing a Nazi salute by mistake and Toni Kroos lowering his arm.

In any case to me Elon's gesture looks very much intentional(either because he wanted to stir the pot or he actually means it), and even if there is doubt, he is not the kind of man that deserves benefit of the doubt.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I was talking about this with my friend and she was like, "I heard it's just a Roman Salute." Be ready to be surprised at how many people will defend this crap.

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

everybody calls it a fascist salute, except for fascists who call it a roman salute

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

That's what I told her. I let her know that anyone trying to correct her with that is trying to play games.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

It really is sad how many things that little fuck nugget has ruined. In this particular instance I mean Hitler.

Swastika? Neat, simple little geometric shape. Independently created by a few different cultures. Ruined.

"Roman salute"? Kinda neat looking, again simple. And again probably independently invented in a few places, but definitely Roman. Ruined

The charlie Chaplin mustache? More widely adopted after WWI as a style that would fit under a gas mask. Ruined

I'm not trying to campaign to rehab any of these things or apologize for musk. Just kinda sad how all this cool shit got tainted.

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[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 78 points 1 day ago

This dude practiced in front of a mirror.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 70 points 1 day ago (41 children)

Just went to LinkedIn just to see bottom of the barrel bootlickers defending him.

” He’s autistic”, ” that picture is taken out of context”, ” it’s a Roman salute”, ” look at these out of context pictures of other politicians making the gesture”, ” how can he be a Nazi if he supports Israel?”

No he did a full on deliberate Nazi salute at a far right event.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I’m genuinely curious: who the fuck defends Elon and Nazis on LinkedIn? Are we so far divided as a country that it’s ok to associate employment with a penchant for Nazism?

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

What if you're really drunk and you're trying to hail a cab but you can't rustle up enough strength to get your arm outside of the danger zone?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

He wasn't drunk or hailing a cab so I don't know what you are getting at.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

That it is possible to do it accidentally. But a normal person would realize their mistake and apologize profusely.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And more to the point, no one stumbles into an extreme-right event, gives a hyper reactionary speech, and does two nazi salutes by mistake.

The media that's helping Musk gaslight everyone should be ashamed of themselves.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

they don't know what shame feels like

[–] nxn@biglemmowski.win 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I saw a nazi just as clearly as you saw a nazi. And no, we did not just see a nazi salute, we saw a complete nazi piece of shit. There's no more to this story, nothing here is up for debate.

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