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Representative Sarah McBride, the first out trans congresswoman, criticized Donald Trump’s executive order defining gender as strictly male or female.

McBride points out that biologically all embryos develop as female until the SRY gene activates weeks after conception.

The order, which ties gender to reproductive cells at conception, unintentionally categorizes all humans as female from conception based on biological facts.

McBride’s remarks highlight scientific flaws in the policy.

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[–] NudeNewt@lemm.ee 11 points 10 hours ago

So this means we did get the first female president! Yippee

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I would laugh my ass off that this bites him in the ass because it makes all scientific distinctions useless when making more laws. Just because his dumb ass doesn't understand the nuance.

[–] eodur@lemmy.world 30 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Does this make him officially the first woman president? So progressive.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If it's retroactive, then we haven't had a single male president.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

Damn. So that means all males (including me) are technically transgender.

I think I'll have some coffee, then.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

The president Donald Trump is the president with more women in their cabinet ever.

Dude is literally drowning in pussy

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

Binders of women

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

I wish, that'd be a hell of a headline.

"Muffled at Last, Serial Snapper Grabber Snatched to Death"

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

So far, only one cabinet member has been confirmed by the Senate, Marco Rubio for Secretary of State...

So I guess you're still not wrong. ;)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I feel like an invulnerable Goddess, in my sleep Trump tried to turn me into a man. I went Ultra Instinct and slapped that shit without waking up, and when I finally do get up I find that the whole country is one giant lesbian slumber party.

This shit aint nothing to me ma'am, Madame President could suck my gock if I wasn't post-op.

[–] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

I KNEW IT!

I'M A LESBIAN!!!!!

I've known my whole life and it's a relief to FINALLY to be able to come out officially.

THANK YOU PRESIDENT RUMP!

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Haha this is so awesome, she should tell that one to a trans person being denied healthcare.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO, because they're all hilarious, woahfully ineffective at combatting conservatives and the far right, but hilarious.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 86 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think the bigger issue is hiding in plain sight:

a person belonging, at conception

Personhood does not begin at conception.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And if it legally does, since I'm a chimera, can I use the carpool lane?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You should apply for a second birth certificate, on the grounds that both of the "people" who were conceived were actually born. You should seek a second SSN, claim them as a dependent on your taxes.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

That would be an interesting approach to how to deal with me being trans. "Actually you only issued my brother his birth certificate, I'm the sister, here's the proof I was born"

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We all know that's why the mistake was made. It's not exactly rocket surgery.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

It’s a P2025 script. Oklahoma made it into law into September, with the same ridiculous misunderstanding of basic biology. It doesn’t matter, they know who they are supposed to oppress.

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[–] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago

At least McBride can now use the women's restrooms in the Capitol. And so must all the other politicians!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 217 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Anyone who thinks this shit is funny is in for a rude awakening.

They do not fucking care. They will use this the exact same way that they would have used it if it was worded correctly.

You don't get out on technicalities in fascism; if the autocrat in charge wants to do the thing, he will do it. All of these things will be used as cudgels against perceived political enemies, and marginalized US citizens.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They do not fucking care. They will use this the exact same way that they would have used it if it was worded correctly.

The reason why this is good news is that the more bizarrely worded the order, the easier it is to get it throw out in court, America even now runs on the WORD of the law, not the intent.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

America even now runs on the WORD of the law, not the intent.

Yeah except not really. Have you paid attention to recent SCOTUS decisions? They aren't even bothering to make cogent arguments in some cases, and hearing others that never should have standing in the first place.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

Cogent arguments?

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I want people to try to be less pesimistic, the point is that technicalities like this will waste time. Every one of these exectuive orders is going to be challanged in court, and while the GOP controls the higher courts, these cases will start in the lower ones. With any luck, the lower courts will stay the order until things can get resolved. Every appeal, every challange takes time to process and judges are under no obligation to resolve things quickly.

The goal currently isnt to try and overturn the order, thats just pissing into the wind. The goal is to waste their time for 2 years and hope the house flips, if it does, we can send 47 back to his golf course for the rest of his term because he wont be able to accomplish anything.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago

we can send 47 back to his golf course for the rest of his term because he wont be able to accomplish anything.

I mean I was kinda hoping agent 47 would be incredibly busy this term. I can imagine a level set inside the inauguration with the dinner and all that.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 22 hours ago

Man, I'm tired of people calling realism "pessimism." It's kind of a huge problem actually when you think about it.

[–] chad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The goal is to waste their time for 2 years and hope the house flips, if it does, we can send 47 back to his golf course for the rest of his term because he wont be able to accomplish anything.

And then we'll have Couch Fucker McGoo as president.

(not intending to kink shame)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

I'm into weird TF porn, so now I'm thinking about being turned into a woman/couch hybrid, it's kinda hot ngl.

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Nobody likes Vance. He'd be a completely ineffectual president. Which is preferable in my opinion.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm, not sure about that. vance is probably a lot more likely to be worn as a sock puppet. drumpf will at least give them a hard time everytime he doesn't want to do something.

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yeah, I'd rather have a puppet Vance than a party completely kowtowed by a rapist felon.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

25th Amendment

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[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 198 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

Theres two possible interpretations due to the at conception bit I think. Either he made everyone a woman, or he abolished gender all together. Either way this EO make Trump the single largest gender changer in history as he just changed the gender of either ~150 million or ~300 million people.

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[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 133 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I'm not sure what is more disconcerting. That the people in charge truly are a bunch of fucking idiots.

Or that those idiots have outplayed and outsmarted the Democrats at damn near every turn for 20+ years.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Trump: "You must identify with the gender you were at the time of conception."

Science: "Everyone starts out as women and don't become men until 6 weeks after conception."

Trump: "That is exactly what I meant. Everyone who knows science must identify as a girly girl."

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump decided he wanted to be the first female president obviously. Don't you liberals understand 5d chess!?

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

"Trump beat Hilary to being the first woman president" is honestly hilarious to me. Sad, but also hilarious.

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