I didn't see the Reddit link for a second so I'm like is this the fediverse Community commenting about how many people are talking in the fediverse community.
The concept of that made me chuckle
this post was submitted on 22 Jan 2025
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Sure. I'll head over and see if I can't help out after I get off work.
"I'm very tech-savvy, but I don't understand how the Fediverse work" - Then continues to write FUD... I'm so tired lol
If Pixelfed can reach 186k monthly active users in a week thanks to IG users, than I'm really not sure how tech savvy that person is indeed
A huge barrier for some is picking the instance and figuring which community they should follow.
A huge barrier for some is picking the instance and figuring which community they should follow.
Figuring out which communities on which servers to subscribe to is way more important than figuring out which server to post from.
no, it does matter, because of the "local" feed.
I am in favor of creating something intermediate between "local" and "global". For example, it should also show you a few posts of "neighboring" servers, but not so much from servers who are further removed.
But that effectively goes in the direction of creating a recommendation algorithm, which is a notoriously difficult topic, because everyone will complain about the results.
To get to that point you have to have selected an instance and then learned how it all works so IMO that’s less of a barrier for entry than it is a barrier for use
Is it though? No one waited around and avoided email because they weren't sure which provider to use. Just make an account and go... if you hear or see other features that you want, then move.
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I guess I had practice from picking MMO servers all these years.
Picking MMO servers, really? Which MMO is that? I'm genuinely asking - I've never played many MMOs, but every one that I've known has had a single persistent world.
That's how it's done with more recent ones, but older ones always had servers.
Then they're likely just auto-assigning you to a server, likely based on geographic proximity.
WoW for instance
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It is the "problem" of how accessible everything is. I know plenty of genuinely amazing coders who have no idea how an operating system (let alone the hardware it runs on) works because they don't need to know. EVERYONE has stories of people who don't understand directory structures because they grew up on google drive.
And it REALLY does not help that the average fediverse evangelist can't shut up and just give a simple answer.
In the Warframe space? What I and others have noticed works REALLY well is to tell the person trying it out "At the end of a mission you are going to get like 40 currencies. Ignore that shit, it doesn't matter". And in fediverse stuff? The answer is just to say "It is like having an email account at gmail or hotmail or whatever"*. It doesn't matter. Just go to join-lemmy.org or whatever and pick one of the top servers after doing their questionnaire".
Instead we have "Well, you need to understand federation and why it is so important. Read this white paper and then come back to me and I'll suggest a few youtube videos that explain what you are having trouble with"
*: The fact that I couldn't think of a good email provider that normies use IS the problem.
I know plenty of genuinely amazing coders who have no idea how an operating system
Such a person cannot be an "amazing coder".
There should be a link, that redirects you to the registration page of a random (maybe based on geo ip) Lemmy server. Just don't mention to the user that they have a choice of servers. Just have them register and get on. Later, while using the Fediverse, they will learn how it works and be able to understand what it means to choose a Lemmy server yourself.
Anything else is just too complicated for the average person, I think. Hell, I think domain names other than lemmy.xxx is confusing some people.
Hell, I think domain names other than lemmy.xxx is confusing some people.
This. Techies know custom domains are a thing. A LOT of people are going to look askance at anything that isn't among the most common TLDs. I mean, lemmy.zip is kinda funny. But it also screams "don't click me, zip files from an unknown source are dangerous!"
...and now I'm having intrusive thoughts about exe being a TLD. I'm-a go lay down until the voices stop.
random (maybe based on geo ip) Lemmy server.
Random servers usually give lackluster experiences: https://lemmy.world/post/24220536
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Generally, I don't believe it's actually an issue with complication. There's just a resistance to change. That said there's still significant onus on those invested in the fediverse to make sure It Just Works^tm^
I miss a lot of the niche communities of reddit that still had engagement. Lemmy doesn't have all that I used to have, but I decided to join anyway. Not everyone will do that, and like you said that makes the resistance to change even stronger.
thats kind of how it starts, individuals have different thresholds for migrating. its fine for it to take time. =)
It's fine to use both, most people do
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Wow, that's a dumb argument. I don't have the slightest clue how it works, but I'm here!
IKR.
Call me a gatekeeper but it's not secret arcane knowledge for a privileged few.
You just sign up the same way you've done anything ever.
I mean... people who understand how the fediverse works... have already made the move.
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I appreciate folks making the effort to help over there. I nuked my 12-year-old account and try not to give them any additional traffic, but onboarding new folks is probably one of the best arguments for activity there
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I had a quick look, seems like @Die4Ever@programming.dev did some some heavy lifting as usual
Lol I've been spotted
Be sure to let them know the Fediverse is kind of like the Marvelverse. Except instead of being a universe of Marvel, it's a universe about Kevin Federline! The Fediverse!!!!
.......I just realized that joke is so old that it's not culturally relevant anymore. Nobody knows who K-Fed was......or cares.
Dammit! It's a funny joke if this were 2006!
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Yeah well maybe they should come here. Lol not to be too harsh. What kinda questions are there anyway? More importantly, what questions are there that can't be answered by "just go on lemmy brah"?
Yeah well maybe they should come here.
That's the idea!
“just go on lemmy brah”
This works. Please do so politely.
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