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I had that phone where the selfie camera extended out of the top whenever you wanted to use it. It reminded me of flipup headlights. Best phone I ever had.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago
[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 47 points 1 week ago

OP is a solid fella. Cropped the image but moved the artists so is still visible after the crop.

[–] Kongpiler@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

We have come full circle!

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Jokes aside, camera arrays are actually an excellent way to improve image capture while maintaining a small form factor. There's a reason many bugs have many eyes. It's more reliant of software to resolve the image, but it allows more information to come in without increasing the lens size.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but you gotta guess which camera your finger is covering..

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's the great part, you actually dont. The image can be resolved with the data available from the others.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

My phone has 2 rear cameras, ignoring the selfie camera. I definitely know which camera is which. One is for images, the other is for LIDAR.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm talking about camera arrays, like the one in the comic. Do you see the picture above these comments? That's the context. The context of our current conversation.

If you want to have a conversation about your personal phone, maybe take a picture of it and see if anyone wants to talk about it, but honestly I think folks would just think that's strange.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The question is which camera does what?

Am I the only one that bothered researching my own device?

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They capture data. All of them.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Except the ones you (or whatever qualified tech) disconnects.

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[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You know, one sensor with a rotating lens selector might actually make sense?

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

More moving parts prone to failure, I would guess

[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

I've been dreaming of that for like 10 years but nah, we only get many shitty sensors instead.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

And like modern reproductions of cassette players, I would expect this to be way shittier than the originals

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Why do phones have so many cameras? What for?

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 49 points 1 week ago

Because variable-zoom isn't possible at the thickness we tolerate in phones, so they need to add multiple fixed-zoom cameras

[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

In addition to having different lenses, as others have mentioned, having multiple sensors enables a bunch of neat computational photography techniques.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Many camera for make many photo

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just got that one with the 4 camera spots recently, its the oneplus 12

I mostly got it because its fast and has a good battery life, but it also has decent cameras ig, although most people say the google pixels have better cameras

Anyways, it has a normal camera, a wide angle camera, a 3x zoom camera, and the last one is not a camera but an ambient light sensor and 13 channel light sensor (I think? its hard to find info on this actually)

People were saying it would have a full 12 channel actual image sensor there with a decently high resolution, but I guess that didn't end up happening

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

its the oneplus 12

So the 13?

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, the 13 doesn't have that shaded area to the left of the camera bump

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

The joke was 1+12=13.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Each physical lens has a single focal length. "Wide" lenses have a wide field of view, and "telephoto" lenses can make very far away things look big in the screen. Have you ever tried to take a photo of the moon with your regular cell phone camera at default zoom? The moon itself is tiny, because the angular diameter of the moon from the surface of the earth is only about half of a degree (out of a 360 degree circle). So you need a very high focal length lens to be able to get the moon to fill up a photograph. Often, in sports, the sidelines have photographers with huge lenses trying to capture intricate detail (beads of sweat, texture of a ball) from 50-100 meters away.

You can stack multiple lenses in front of each other and vary the difference between them to "zoom" to different focal lengths. That versatility is great, and zoom lenses are very common on cameras. But because this feature requires the stacking of multiple lenses, the lens assembly as a whole will end up sticking out pretty far. Bad form factor for a phone.

So cell phones use a bunch of single-lens cameras to make the lens protrude less from the body of the phone, and use software to choose between the cameras: wide, medium, telephoto, or maybe even a super telephoto.

And once they had that in place, there were a few tricks that could be used where the software would evaluate 2 or more cameras simultaneously to try to capture more information with less blur to fill in more image detail than one camera could have, with that sensor hardware. So there are a bunch of computational photography tricks that make cell phone cameras look better with small, limited hardware.

[–] owl@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My phone has one camera with less pixels, because that is better for low light conditions (at least that was the reasoning).

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

i dunno, but what is funny to me is that I've never seen an actual photographic camera with more than one lens

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I see you got the biblically accurate camera

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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Most actual photographic cameras have some optics inside that can physically move to change the zoom level, something smartphones don’t have space for.

[–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Anything requiring depth (3D video or photo) requires 2 cameras.

Most photographic cameras have interchangeable lenses as well. Instead of having interchangeable lenses on something that needs to be durable like a smartphone, they can ship with multiple fixed lenses.

[–] groet@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago

Smartphone cameras are (bad and) very limited. Their sensor is very small and their lenses have to be flat, very small in diameter and cant have moving parts (maybe the aperture moves not sure). All this means they capture very little light on a ultra dense sensor (dense sensors have bleed where one pixel is influenced by the interference of the photons hitting the pixel next to it).

So they cheat. Wherever they can. They often take multiple pictures at the same time using multiple cameras and overlay them digitally (black/white and color). And of course they need different cameras with different lenses because they can't have a zoom (moving parts). They also heavily edit the pictures without ever telling the user.

Often a smartfone image will look better than an unedited image taken by a 5000$+ camera. At least until you zoom in and look at the colors

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The multiple lenses in a traditional professional photograph setup are stacked in front of each other, so they stick out a lot. The multiple cameras on a back of a phone are a workaround for trying to get good image quality and versatile zoom without making the lens stick out too far.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Well real (dslr/mirror less) cameras have interchangeable lenses and most photographers have several.

I would say most cameras have more than one lens, only cheap cameras have one lens usually, like disposable, and point and clicks.

The multiple phone lenses are doing the exact same thing professional lenses are doing. Instead of using a single general purpose lens, they use more specific lenses based on the type of photo you are taking, like wide angle, telephoto, etc.

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[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

I have no idea either. The camera on any smart phone I've ever had is a wasted feature. I would rather have a faster processor or more memory or better battery. So I always try to buy the phone with the worst camera to save money.

I guess the question now is why does an ultra slim camera have a phone?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

putting an extra camera increased sales?

why lets add all the cameras then for infinite sales!

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just cover the whole phone in cameras. Or maybe if instead of adding more cameras, you could just put one really big camera on the phone.

In fact, get rid of all the other features so that there's just a teeny tiny screen to see what your photo looks like and a button to take a photo, leaving more space either for one giant camera or tens of small cameras.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

i think we should add a couple of folds for good measure

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[–] owl@infosec.pub 6 points 1 week ago

This is funky funny

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Phone herpes.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago
[–] dannotdaniel@hellions.cloud 2 points 1 week ago
[–] alzymologist@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Gudim and Nazim - best contemporary meme artists!

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