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Summary

Donald Trump suggested deporting violent repeat American offenders to foreign countries willing to incarcerate them for a small fee.

The proposal, shared at a Republican retreat in Florida, has no legal precedent in the U.S. and would require new legislation.

Critics cite constitutional concerns, including the Eighth Amendment that prohibits "cruel and unusual punishments."

The idea follows Trump’s broader crackdown on illegal immigration, which a recent poll shows has significant bipartisan support.

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[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 160 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Should they start with people convicted of 33 or more felonies?

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 years ago

The felons are in the white house!

[-] riskable@programming.dev 107 points 2 years ago

By "criminals" he means his political enemies.

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago

Sounds like an excuse to put people into work camps as they perpetually wait for somewhere to be deported to. (Hint: The camp is the destination.)

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

2026: Hmmm, these camps are looking pretty full, and deportation is super expensive. We really need to solve this problem once and for all

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago
[-] subspaceinterferents@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

A Solution, if you will...

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 8 points 2 years ago

Once the migrants are gone, there will be so many job opportunities in agriculture!

Agriculture macht frei.

[-] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 58 points 2 years ago

Yeah this “proposal” violates literally everything about the Constitution.

This is just exile but with more words, which is not allowed under the immunities clause of the US Constitution.

Every person has rights to exercise due process within the several states, exile explicitly removes this.

[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Trump doesn't give a shit about the Constitution. He makes the rules. Checks and Balances? The only way that resonates with him is the checks he receives and his bank balances increasing.

He will take every inch given to him.

And just to be clear, I don't disagree with anything you said.

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The what? Look, you can't just make up words.

[-] plz1@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

Finally, the

they're sending us their criminals

projection comes into full view.

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago

"For a small fee"

Isn't this just buying people? I seem to remember something like this happenening before.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah this is just human trafficking.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 years ago

Next step: defining trans people as criminals

Florida has been trying (via the "child abuser" route) as a way to get us the death penalty

[-] Skydancer@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago

There's already another plan for trans folk. They'll claim it's a mental illness and send them to RFK's "wellness camps" to replace some of the migrant workers they're deporting.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

To where? Who is going to take them?

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

It's a short walk from "Mexico is sending us their criminals" to "We should send our criminals to Mexico."

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Well, if British recent history is to be followed, Rwanda.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 2 years ago

There's precedent for doing this internationally. For example, Belgium pays the Netherlands to house some of their prisoners instead of building new prisons because the Netherlands has spare capacity and it's easier than building new prisons.

I doubt that this sort of thing is what Trump has in mind though.

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'll happily take a spot in a Nordic prison.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 5 points 2 years ago

I think, you insulted several nations by calling the Netherlands nordic.

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Oh no! I need to be punished!!

[-] Lupus@feddit.org 5 points 2 years ago

From experience I can tell you that even a nice prison is still a prison. Being locked up fucks with your mind.

[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 8 points 2 years ago
[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago

Who would take him out?

[-] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago
[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 15 points 2 years ago

They said Hitler was protected by the devil himself. He survived 42 (or more) assassination plots.

42 attempts on Hitler, where as he and his Death Cult were responsible for almost 21m murders.

Trump doesn't give a damn about the constitution, because the supreme Court will grant him whatever he fucking wants. When he can't concentrate Jews, people of color, people of non-white descent, political dissenters, LGBTQ+, physically and intellectually disabled, and people who refuse orders to persecute the preceding people in deportation camps, he will cull them.

42 attempts to reduce 20,900,000 murders? That's it. A whole fucking war was waged against Nazi Germany, but only 42 attempts to cut the head off the snake.

Weren't 3 of those times tied to the Pope. When the pope wants you dead you know you've made people mad

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

I mean a whole army was trying to knock on his door...

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

fucking lol the irony

[-] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I can't believe it. His followers have been telling me that he only wants to deport illegal immigrants! I'm shocked at this totally unexpected rhetoric!

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago
[-] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't be surprised if this stupid fuck sends them to Russia as meat shields in Ukraine.

[-] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago

He means he’s planning a trip abroad

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It’s a good thing he’s too illiterate to have read Kafka’s “In the Penal Colony” and figured out that there could be a literal, corporeal form of sentencing. 34 would be a heck of a time.

[-] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

If this included him, since he's a criminal, then I'd be down.

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Hypothetical... what if this is a coup by say Vance, or any of his underlings. The fact is the constitutional crisis's of arresting a sitting president are all defeated.

We then discover he's not immune to being deported for his felonies... and trump walks down the street as they ring the bell and say "shame" over and over again.

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

I still get a bit of a feeling that Vance's goal is to sabotage Trump. I know it's unlikely that this will be a good thing, but from his previous stances on policies and such, I'm not completely ruling it out.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 2 years ago

I don't think the domestic prison slave industry would appreciate that very much.

[-] A_A@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

He sould see how, symmetrically, other countries would be in their right to send their own criminals to the USA ... yet, being a criminal himself, he would never admit it.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Isn't that against the 8th amendment? (Is it the 8th?)

[-] ringo32@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

I bet inflation in us sky rocket.. Export wil shrink too because other country's wil add more tax on us products... as Healthcare become a 3th world country only the riches

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