it's very cool to not drive in that country because you don't need to and you wouldn't because you're not fat
this post was submitted on 29 Jan 2025
588 points (99.8% liked)
World News
40018 readers
2326 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
and, shocker, it was even less than "less than 1%" before electric cars were invented!
electric cars were invented in the 1830s.. They're literally older than gas vehicles.
Norway progresses while the USA regresses going full fucking 3rd World with Orange Nero.
Really? No~r~ Way!
~(sorry~ ~for~ ~the~ ~terrible~ ~joke~ ~lol)~
Has no one told them that EVs don't work when it's cold?
/s
I swear all my coworkers keep asking what I'm going to do when my battery dies in the cold smfh
and even my wife still has range anxiety despite traveling half of I-95 multiple times
This was such a big worry of mine, but I'm only down 12% average versus the summer and I live in Canada.
Also, solar panels are worse for the environment than burning fossil fuels for 20 years and windmills make everyone nearby sick because they spin and disturb the atmosphere.
Literally things I've heard IRL in oil country from people who, clearly, went looking for a personally affirming worldview.
yeah on a recent trip it went from like 2.8 mi/kw to 2.3 mi/kw as the weather went from above to below 0 C but the way you hear some people tell it if the snow falls you'll be stranded at work and won't be able to drive ten miles home 😑
While other countries lag behind, Norway's success demonstrates the potential for widespread EV adoption.
Decades of incentives, including tax breaks and infrastructure investments, have driven this shift.
Basically, if your government really wants it and doesn’t give in to lobbying then they can do it.
It’s many years of concerted effort with successive administrations keeping up the commitment.
Our 2024 figure for % of new cars being electric was 19.6% in the UK so I’d be very surprised if we hit the 2030 target of 80% new cars sold being zero emission.
Geology and geography are also helping a lot.
Norway is also a very wealthy nation, which thanks to its huge oil and gas exports, has a sovereign wealth fund worth more than $1.7tn (£1.3tn). This means it can more easily afford big infrastructure-build projects, and absorb the loss of tax revenue from the sale of petrol and diesel cars and their fuel.
The country also has an abundance of renewable hydro electricity, which accounts for 88% of its production capacity. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg52543v6rmo
They don't withdraw much from that fund though and have an annual ceiling of 3% of its value, they still pay a good amount of taxes (22% on income, 25% sales tax). Blaming the oil fund just shows how lacking other countries management is.
They don't withdraw a lot, but having it means they don't have a need to tax all the things just in case either and they can take a hit today to plan for a better future. That is to say, EVs in Norway are exempt from vehicle taxes, import duties, registration fees and get all kinds of other benefits too making them way cheaper in comparison to ICE cars.
That fund has something like $200 000 per Norwegian in it.
Most things have a 25% sales tax on them + 22% flat rate for income tax. How much taxes are billionaires paying in the US?
Again, blame the fund all you want, in the end the problem is other countries not jumping at the opportunities presented to them to build a similar fund.
It was inspired by Alberta's heritage fund (which obviously existed before Norway's), Alberta has a much bigger oil reserve and has extracted way more oil than Norway. How much do they have in their version of the fund? Less than CAD $30B. Instead of investing for the future they decided to cut all sales taxes and to lower income taxes as much as they realistically could while still offering public services.
The same logic can apply to any government that has natural resources to manage and decides not to nationalize it to invest for the future.
No clue, I'm from Finland where our VAT is 25.5%, income tax is higher than in Norway, and our vehicles are some of the most expensive, and also the oldest, in Europe :)
Close.
Every NOK over 500k is now with VAT. They changed it last year.
The selection under 500k is still quite good, so I’m not gonna pretend the deal is horrible, and you only pay on the amount over, so a 600k car is still artificially cheap compared to most places.
Yepp, it’s odd to celebrate the milestone to emobility if one knows it’s paid all by carving carbon out of the earth. The goal of Emobility is to reduce carbon emissions - as far as I know.
Yepp, it’s odd to celebrate the milestone to emobility if one knows it’s paid all by carving carbon out of the earth.
A nation converting nearly 100% to EV means less carbon needing to be carved out of the Earth going forward. How is that not something to celebrate for those that like less carbon being carved out of the Earth?
Because this very nation makes tons of money by selling oil and gaz (carbon emissions)
Same joke if Saudi Arabia would go 100% emobility and keeps selling oil (carbon emissions)
Are you saying you would prefer they sell tons oil and gas (carbon emissions), as well as have their nation producing even more carbon emissions from ICE vehicle tailpipes? That seems to contradict your desire to have fewer carbon emissions.
No I‘m not saying this
There only appears to be two realistic choices, and I've enumerated them both. Feel free to clarify your position then.
I'm not saying they aren't downplaying it, but it's also a population of 5.5 million of highly educated and high per capita income, which makes easier to implement. Small population and people who can afford it.
Maybe but so far in the us, it’s not the large population or lack of affordability blocking EV adoption, as much as politics, conservative backlash, Facebook science, outrage culture. If we could put aside our toxicity, spite, narcissism, and come together for a better future, we could be pretty far down that road too
load more comments
(3 replies)
load more comments
(2 replies)
Meanwhile our Premier just floated the idea to delay the ban on gas car sales... Fun how a new president in the neighboring country makes us give up on our emission goals...
Norway: don't get high on your own supply...
I remember using Google Street View in Norway, every single corner you turn...there's an EV!
But did they stopped exporting oil and gas? ~/s~
Crude oil and natural gas amount to 62% of the total value of Norway’s exports of goods in 2023.
https://www.norskpetroleum.no/en/production-and-exports/exports-of-oil-and-gas/
Norway selling their trash
But that's emissions outside of our environment so that's fine, no worries.
Please Europe keep buying our natural gas at record prices.
load more comments
(1 replies)
view more: next ›