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After creating a fresh installation of Ubuntu 24.04, I installed DEB Firefox from APT by following Mozilla's instructions from here. But I noticed that it was secretly replaced with Snap Firefox. I was able to verify this by checking the About Firefox page. This is the third time I noticed this.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Is KDE Neon still broken? For awhile it was the only Ubuntu based distro I'd recommend. Yes, I know about Mint but no HDR or Wayland.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not really a secret

[–] ritchie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I got a notification about it when I upgraded from 20.04 LTS that they will only serve it as a snap package.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago

My work cannot manage permissions well so I cannot remove snap Firefox cos its in use by another user.

Meanwhile current snap version of Firefox is crashing on my profile

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

This is why i switched to Debian. It's 99% of Ubuntu, without the crap.

[–] ritchie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I must have hit that 1% last time. I assembled a new PC, wanted to install debian and could not get a login screen after installation. At that point I wanted something that just works. I installed Xubuntu and had the machine ready right away.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I.... I.... I don't know why I haven't done that myself. (Am now on NixOS btw) but for work maybe I ask for Debian cloud box.

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

For work, you could also try Fedora Workstation or Linux Mint Debian Edition. Debian is pretty barebones, but if that isnt a bother then do whatever.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I like gnome, but i guess i could look at fedora.

I would like to stay with apt as package manager so the package names stay the same to what I know, or is yum/dnf/etc gonna use the same for most?

[–] Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 21 minutes ago

Mostly the same, and if not all it has taken for me to figure it out was searching "fedora $pkgname"

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 hours ago

Definitely not you, they absolutely do this with snaps and have for a while. This was the main reason I stopped using Ubuntu.

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 31 points 6 hours ago (14 children)
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Yeah, there's an entire page bitching about it on Linux Mint's website.

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 28 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Yes. That was the last straw for me. I switched to debian stable, and haven't looked back since

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[–] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 7 hours ago

Solve the problem. Drop ubunutu

[–] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 70 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

They started doing that in a couple of years back. Saw quite a bit of backlash in the Linux news media at the time.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 52 points 9 hours ago

It is one of the reasons many people turn away from Ubuntu.

[–] phar@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 hours ago (16 children)

At this point, why is anyone using Ubuntu for desktop? You have soooo many options

[–] gpopides@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Unfortunately it's my only option at work because my employer wants the security of Ubuntu pro

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[–] notabot@lemm.ee 10 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I suspect that what's happened is you installed the apt version, then at some point upgraded it and there was a version in the main repo that had a higher version number and installed the snap version. If two repositories both have a package with the same name, and no other rules in place, the higher version number wins.

If that is the case, you need to pin the firefox package to the mozilla repository. You can find more details here: https://wiki.debian.org/AptConfiguration

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[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 38 points 9 hours ago (8 children)
[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

But it's not obvious either. When I say 'apt install firefox', specially after adding their repository to sources.list, I'd expect to get a .deb from mozilla. Silently overriding my commands rubs me in a very wrong way.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 9 hours ago

Jesus Christ this is Windows-tier insane computing behaviour from Ubuntu. Fuck Ubuntu.

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