I don't understand what it's going to take for someone to do something. Protests are not going to work when they're holding all our money, services, rights, data, etc hostage, and threatening all our public servants. We already had a hard time protesting before this, because health care is tied to employment. It's not a coincidence that they're going after Medicare and Medicaid. They want an entire nation of indentured servants. Unable to own anything, including our own freedom. When we can't work anymore we can just go die in the wilderness like animals I guess. Hmm where have we heard that before?

Everyone is terrified and exhausted. It seems pretty evident that the election was outright stolen, and I have a hard time believing nobody in power suspected something that many of us immediately called, not with the mountains of evidence that's been stacking up for months, years even. So why didn't they do anything? Why did they wait until Trump was sworn in to even talk about it?

I see Canadians online talking about Americans like we chose this. But we didn't, it was forced upon us, and we're begging for help! Who can we turn to if not our allies? What is going on???

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 50 minutes ago) (1 children)

It wasn't stolen and it wasn't forced on you. Depressingly enough, turkeys, it seems, do sometimes vote for Christmas. I totally agree with you about the awfulness of the situation but - he told you how he was going to govern, he told you what he was going to do and then he won the election that enables him to do it. You did, as a nation, choose this.

I don't know how any nation state can really intervene on that basis. Its not like Hitler steam rolling Poland or Putin annexing the Crimea - this isn't an invasion or a hostile takeover, it's an elected President carrying out the will of the people that voted for him.

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 2 points 11 minutes ago

I'm not going to argue with you, I get enough of that on reddit. But there is a literal mountain of evidence, including their own statements and sketchy behavior, hard data, unsecured voting machines, various voter suppression tactics, ballots that were tossed, code that was published online months (possibly more than a year) before the election, and one of the twerps currently taking over the treasury wrote code that can falsify ballots while he was an intern for Musk.

Also, it is like Hitler, they're using the same exact playbook, and while there are some key differences there is no arguing that this is the exact reason NATO exists. Justin Trudeau could invoke article 4 for threats of invasion. Someone from our government should still be able to invoke article 5. These international agreements exist because when the highest power in the nation is compromised, we need outside help.

[–] gearheart@lemm.ee 0 points 44 minutes ago

I hear you... The problem is no one is going to come save us.

Change can only happen internally.

Unsure what can be done though... Voting and protests don't seem to be effective...

If nothing changes everyone will have to get comfortable enough to feel like freedom is fighting for.

This means first amendment up, train, and be ready for the day to when we need to defend our constitution.

The confederacy already lost once, they will lose again.

At the rate this is going I honestly don't see any other future.

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 0 points 49 minutes ago

I don't understand what it's going to take for someone to do something

Who is someone? Who is something? Organize and mobilize. I know all Americans didn’t choose this, but you’ll need a lot of support/like minded folks (which it sounds like you have). Trump’s shock doctrine has clearly worked. Try and focus on tangible steps to take whether it’s annoying the heck out of your elected officials, joining a grassroots org, or attending a public rally on an off day.

[–] hedhoncho@lemm.ee 17 points 2 hours ago

An actual use. Yeah send help!

[–] niketunic@lemmy.world 32 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

people need to start seriously protesting

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 34 minutes ago

Yeah like every day... none of this "we will spend one hour during our lunch break on one Wednesday!" bullshit.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Their house reps, not just the president.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 94 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Kudos to the person who is sending the correct message. Everyone who believes in protecting the US Constitution should fly the US flag upside down.

[–] maxoakland@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

I think we need to do more than that. The flag is a distress signal. We have to help the people who are distressed

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 6 hours ago

Is that the State Department flag or is it a flag near the State Department?

[–] ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world 274 points 8 hours ago (21 children)

That seems like a very bad sign. Someone wanted a message to get out to the public, but I'm not entirely sure what can be effectively done about it. Credit to the person with the balls to send out the warning, though.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 123 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm not entirely sure what can be effectively done about it.

History offers no control groups; there is no "right" way to proceed. What's certain is that "nothing" is not the answer.

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Maybe we shouldnt vote. Thatll show em

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

People should get creative. Imagine if they backed up every sewer in DC

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe we should double down on capitalism again.

It's the only move the US has used in living memory.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Like when Elon gets rid of "all regulations" make private bounty hunters/hitman legal again?

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Anything is legal if it's not prosecuted.

And with a dismantled government, how much can they really prosecute?

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Prosecution is one possibility. Getting gunned down is another. Getting sent to Gitmo is another. Having your family retaliated against is another.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago

I assure you the last thing to be dismantled will be methods of enforcement on the populace.

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They won't - that's why your military will soon be a judicial militia.

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 289 points 9 hours ago (26 children)

I mean the US is certainly in distress

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