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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[–] AliSaket@mander.xyz 4 points 40 minutes ago

Democracy is being dismantled as we speak. Agency by agency, loyalist by loyalist, executive order by executive order. And instead of building community, helping each other and organizing with those around you, I see people, who supposedly care about democracy, about human rights, about those they accuse; and what are they doing? They are blaming people who are powerless and desparing. Thereby further dividing the populace and making the takeover easier for the fascists in power. Be careful: You are telling on yourselves and your values. And we can see you.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I find it funny how everyone blames everyone except for the Republicans who voted for Trump.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 3 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

Politics is like religion for those that voted for Trump. You can't tell them that their "god" sucks and you should follow this other "god".

So you have to go after the agnostics or the blue voters that "don't go to Church every Sunday", so to speak.

I mean on the whole, yeah, humanity is doomed. But hopefully this helps you understand.

Jesus: I give my body and blood so that you all may survive and thrive together, oh well not those guys, they look different.. oh and those women, under qualified for being born a woman, oh and that guy over there, was he born on this side of the border? Who does that one believe in... You say none of them believed in me before now? Fuck em all to hell then I guess.

[–] GiantChickDicks@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

We had a choice between voting in a system that allows us some power to dissent and have a voice versus... this. The frustrating thing is this situation was just as advertised in Project 25, and then some.

We did not have an ideal choice, but we still had one. Now, here we find ourselves.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 25 minutes ago

There's also the people who had no idea there was even a fight. There were actual people who were like "wait, Biden isn't running?" on election day, some of whom just voted Trump because they recognized the name. People are fucking stupid. So between the protest votes, blind ignorance, blatant stupidity, and typical apathy we ended up with America being turned into a Christofascist nightmare.

Then there's the fact that an all out (non-nuclear) war with China over Taiwan will cripple both countries. I wonder if America will splinter, and where the lines will be drawn.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

When in life do you get an ideal choice?

[–] GiantChickDicks@lemmy.ml 2 points 54 minutes ago

Precisely. Life rarely gives us a perfect choice. Short-sighted idealists would rather take their ball and go home rather than facing reality, so here we are.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I love it, Ive been seying how stupid dems who did not vote are. And every single time someone is coming to tell me, yadi yada. It's their conviction.

I see the german, saying, it wasn't an ideal choice. So, we got Hitler elected. What could go wrong??

I think with Trump, it's much more about the grift. So, hell rob the poor and feed the rich. But maybe I'm wrong and this time around he has lot more racist and dangerous friends with him... who know. Good luck to us.

[–] LNSS@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

My opinion is that Gaza was flattened under Biden's watch, as he sold Bibi more and more weapons.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

Y'know what this thread has made me realize? All the dumb memes of "the left fighting the left" are bullshit. I can respectfully debate other people on the left with me. I can change their minds about some things, they can change my mind on some things, we can come to compromises. I don't agree with the communist 100%, but I agree with them at least 70-80%, and would happily work alongside them to accomplish that 70-80%.

You know who loves infighting though? Centrists who have deluded themselves into thinking they are leftists. You can find comment after comment in this thread from right-leaning centrists, gleefully demanding that they were "right all along" and how everything is our fault for just not being as smart as them. There is no political group that loves infighting as much as them, even more than the fascists. They want to spend the next four years trying to find out all the ways they can assign blame to the left, instead of organizing and doing anything.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

Liberals thinking they are leftists refusing to realize they are actually conservatives in everything but brandng, but never having the dawn of enlightenment on that they are wrong, not the people who have been using the terms for centuries.

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 hours ago

hell yeah dude! im glad my post was able to set the stage for this realization :)

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I advocated for voting for Harris, and did so when the time came. I also don't think this blame game gets us anywhere, and I'm already a little sick of talking about it.

I'm also done defending the Democratic Party as a whole. Individuals, yes, but not the party. I'm realizing through this that I have a certain reflexive need to correct misinformation about Democrats, but I'm clamping down on it.

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