this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2025
1085 points (98.7% liked)

Technology

62073 readers
5488 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] leadore@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine pulling up to a red light, checking your GPS for directions, and suddenly, the entire screen is hijacked by an ad. That’s the reality for some Stellantis owners. Instead of seamless functionality, drivers are now forced to manually close out of ads just to access basic vehicle functions.

Oh HELLLLL no. I hope my 2012 Subaru will last until I'm either dead or too old to drive. I don't even want to have these damn screens for the usual shit you have to do on them. I want to be able to do everything with physical controls, no eavesdropping, and no dependence on a fucking app or touchscreen to operate anything in my car! I will drive my car while wearing mittens! shakes fist

[–] a9249@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

Aw yeah, 14mpg, two distinct oil leaks, and cabins full of mold because the vintage weather strips failed forty years ago. (I drive a late 90s pickup and am acutely aware of the tradeoffs that come with older cars, even ones that are maintained relatively well.)

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

Maybe we just throw an ad on the windshield... Like a little one... Off to the side?

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 81 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

This is why you need government. This is why you need regulations.

Corporations are evil pieces of shit that would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.

They'd grind you and your entire family into a powder if it made them a few bucks.

Fuck Jeep and their shitty tin cars.

[–] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 24 points 17 hours ago

This is why we need government that isn't in the pocket of corporations.

We need something like lawmakers having to disclose their tax information annually. If you want to be in office and make millions you should be willing to put your morals on the review table.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago

they would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.

No, they would require you purchase these because their business can’t sell their products without them, but they’d make you pay a subscription for them to keep working, and when you stop paying the subscription, the car stops turning on until you pay your monthly airbag and seatbelt fee.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Make the jeep 50% cheaper and I’d deal the ads. Otherwise …

[–] alcoholic_chipmunk@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

They'll make it cheaper for awhile to justify it to the public and government and then slowly raise the price so that you're paying full price AND watching ads.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

So Netflix….

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

This is why used cars are so dang expensive, it seems like automobile quality has been in a free fall since 2008. The end user experience gets worse while the price goes up.

[–] jmf@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Early 2000s jap cars are unkillable, surplus of parts, and are not tracker spyware nests. Great little things for sure. My 90s turboed volvo is a far more temperamental beast, but I cherish her quirks :)

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Right now my car is an 84. With a back up 86 truck. I used to have a 2011 subaru, but hit an prairie antelope with it. If I had my pick I think 1990-2008 Japanese cars are the sweet spot.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Aren't those older cars absolute death traps in collisions compared to the newer ones?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 58 minutes ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago) (1 children)

No, The issue is with conceptions of auto safety becoming a selling point. For example look at the single biggest invention in reducing crash fatality? You would think maybe airbags, seat belts or ABS brakes..... But nope, collapsible steering columns. But we are now sold "death proof" SUVs that are not really safer, in some ways worse. The issue is that safety devices have a diminishing return but fear is a great selling point, I would say there are old things that are death traps (like square body chevys) and things like saabs that I would say are to this day built safer then new cars. If we look at the data for auto fatalities per capita we can see that car safety has not had some magical jump since the late 80s but a more expected gradual change.

As a side note I do and have done a lot of driving and from what I have seen in the last 20 plus years is a slide into cars that are:

  • Top heavy (bigger is not safer)
  • Have little to no visibility (that then try to make up for with back up cameras)
  • Are built not to avoid crashing but to make crashing more comfortable
  • Have limited to no driving feed back and over reliance on things like traction control
  • Make driving on the same road with them more dangerous (just look at north american headlights)

At the end of the day I would rather drive a car that I can see out of and has a degree of safety devices (seat belts, collapsible steering column, working brakes) then something that is built like a living room on low profile tires that I will at some point crash. Bonus points if it does not explode or catch fire easily (think pintos or teslas).

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 24 minutes ago

Yes, But this is my point. You are sharing a video from "CAR TV" who's tag line is "Watch New Model Cars With Pleasure 🎬" Its very much selling the idea that newer is safer, but the data only shows a slight increase in safety (and nothing on rate of crashes old vs new). In the video they show the two cars crashing but no data at all, the 1998 one from what I can see looks non fatal (seatbelt held, engine block not in lap, steering wheel not impaling chest) but not only do they say "The test showed the driver of the older Corolla would likely have died as a result of the 64km/h collision" they also don't show that data. Even when looking for sources I get almost no where, this stinks.

Oh and in the little write up they say "ROAD safety experts have renewed calls for drivers to get behind the wheel of newer cars after an unprecedented crash test revealed shocking results." Why do they write ROAD in all caps? Is this a special interest group? A lobbyist? No idea I can't even check since there are no sources!

I am not saying newer cars don't have more safety built in, I am saying its a matter of finding what level you are comfortable in and to not get suckered into needless fear over your cars safety rating while the average driver does not even maintain their car's brakes.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 17 hours ago

Enshitification.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Love my 2013 Honda. Haven’t driven anything newer

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] menemen@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

They really do take 80s and 90s dystopian movies as inspiration. Almost funny how ridiculous unimaginatively evil that are.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So is this considered distracted driving?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

No, it's considered distracted stopping. /s

Same damn diffence in my book, fuck Jeep for that shit!

[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Old cars are gonna be so expensive.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] pls@lemmy.plaureano.nohost.me 99 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This is all I need to never even look at a Jeep... how pathetic can these idiots get?

[–] apocalypticat@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Also a great way for me to never consider looking at a Ram, Chrysler, Dodge, or whatever the fuck else this corporation makes.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's actually part of the Sirius XM package. So I think that all you have to do is not bother with Sirius XM.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 17 hours ago

Too bad it comes with the jeep.....

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] maxalmonte14@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"You almost ran over a five year old with your oversized vehicle, thanks for breaking! This segment is brought to you thanks to BetterHelp..."

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How to get me to not buy a Jeep and to hate anyone pushing these ads (Mopar) in one simple act.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Drivers don't need to be watching the road, they need to be watching this ad.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago

If you slam on the brakes it makes the ad extra large

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Roku was experimenting with similar stuff so I refuse to connect my Roku tv to WiFi. Will never update it

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] ironcrotch@aussie.zone 9 points 21 hours ago
[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I've known several Jeep owners over the last decade and those that weren't buying it strictly for the 'Jeep clout' as an actual vehicle/daily driver had constant issues, while under warranty, and dealt with issues even trying to get said warranty work done. Like that wasn't enough for me, on top of that I had a mechanic with his own shop that said he'd never touch another Jeep because of how horribly they are designed to work on. Anything from ease of access to work on the engine to bolts stripping out because they were overtorqued during assembly and made with shit metals that would sooner melt than come off in one piece. Now this? Yeah, hope they go bankrupt. This is just as bad as BMW and their 'pay a subscription for seat warmers' bullshit.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (22 children)

I completely crossed off all GM cars due to lack of CarPlay. I am boycotting Tesla. I don’t trust BMW because they tried to make heated seats a subscription. Now Jeep and Stellantis?

[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Japanese manufacturers are not perfect but seem to be the least interested in doing this kind of anti-consumer nonsense, at least for now. I have been happy with every Mazda I've owned in the last decade (3 in total) for what it's worth.

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (21 replies)
[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cyberpunk 2077 here we come. except its just the Corpo shit.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›