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How about we bring back the wheat board? Dairy and Poultry products are the most secure industries because they are supply managed.
How about we nationalize the energy sector? Norway has a very secure energy industry because its profits go right to helping people rather than in the pockets of corporations.
Nah, I bet we'll get rid of the rest of supply management instead to appease the unappealable. Under PP, I'm fairly certain this will happen. Under Carney, not so certain but I think it might still be on the cards.
I dunno about that. Carney tends to lean left, working for the people vs for his own benefit.
I'm sorry, but Canada is one of the most food and energy secure countries in the world. We're a net exporter of both, and by massive margins. We basically export so much energy, that that one ticket is enough to make our massive trade deficit into a massive trade surplus, the very thing Trump complains about. It's like a third of our entire export by value to the US.
And we single-handedly fed the Soviets during the cold war as well, being the only country with enough surplus in food to feed them during their massive self-inflicted famines, and preventing them from going to war out of sheer desperation.
It's people like this that is destroying Canadian sovereignty, not trying to secure it. We need to be united more than ever as we shift gears, diversity our trade, and improve relations with other countries for the sake of our sovereignty, not attack each other in petty attempts at power grabs.
"only threat" is "ourself".
Checks Mr. Moe's political affiliation: Conservative.
Ah, so projection? Again?
Damn you guys gotta relax with this rhetoric. Its divise and not helpful at all.
Itβs not divisive to call assholes out when they have a long history of proving theyβre assholes. Itβs divisive for them to continue being assholes.
Scott Moe is a hate-driven, Trump-loving knee-jerk fascist. His entire leadershipnhas beem defined by sucking up to Kenney, Smith, and Poilievre, trying to prove that he can play in the deep end of the fascist wading pool.
He can shut the fuck up.
Even the dumbest drunk driving murderer in the province is right once in a while....
Pinning it solely on the Liberals is pretty typical Scooter Moe bullshit, but he's right in that we should have been divesting our trade from the U.S a long time ago.
I love how Alberta is always talking about who to sell our oil to and how to move it out of the country faster, but never how to get more domestic refineries to process it ourselves so we could have domestic sources of gasoline and other petrochemical products... π€·
I'll preface this by admitting that I'm far far far from an expert, but if I recall correctly, the issue is that the oil that is left in Alberta (Tar Sands) is largely dirty, bitumen layers that require so much refining that it's not cost effective to the point where no other province really wants to bother building the rather expensive refineries necessary to do it.
It's more cost effective to ship it to places that already have such refineries and then buy it back.
Though my understanding on it is very very limited, so please if someone can explain it differently to me, please do. I'm always open to learning.
I've definitely heard the whole rationale that bitumen needs special refineries that we don't have, but I'm perplexed if that would somehow be a net economic loss.
Sure, maybe it would take a large investment and a long time to recoup, but to take a play out of the capitalism playbook: think of all the jobs it would create not only building but also operating these refineries in addition to the national security of having these domestically.
Agreed.
Especially perplexing is why the hell isn't Alberta doing it itself? Bitumen is quite difficult to transfer as it needs to be kept hot to be liquid enough to transport, yet they went so far in for the keystone XL pipeline that had to be heated its entire way to Texas.
Not to mention that our trade deals with the US has them selling their oil far below world market prices, so refining it locally would massively raise their profits and they can even start producing plastics, not just fuels. The number of industries they could put together and attract US money over the decades is countless, yet they've been so satisfied selling their resources to the lowest bidder this entire time.
Makes me wonder where the loyalties of Albertian premiers over the decades lie, especially when they keep cutting local services while blaming the rest of the country why their people keep suffering.
Do you think Donald Trump is a threat to Canadian sovereignty right now, premier?
No, there's.. the only threat that could ever be to Canadian sovereignty is ourselves.
Sure buddy, sure. I feel all better now.
I wish Moe, Smith and Fraud would just ride off into the sunset already.
Help everyone you know to register to vote. If they have mobility or transportation barriers, help them register for a mail-in ballot or transport them to the polls.
Last Ontario election had the lowest turnout since confederation. We cannot let Doug Ford win a 3rd majority in a row.
Also vote early. It's much less stressful and often convenient.
At least Ford is standing up to Trump, unlike Smith who tried to go to his inauguration.
Now he is, but he wasn't before.
Asked about prior support, Ford says he hoped Trump 'might be a little different' during 2nd term
Tigers don't change their stripes. He's just faking it 'til he makes it.
Ah well I'm not surprised lol
I mean, I agree with him. Trump isn't a threat to us, the bootlikers and american lovers trying to appease him is our largest threat.
He's trying to dunk on Trudeau&co, but he's not wrong.
There were calls for Canada to reduce internal trade barriers as a reaction to NAFTA in the 90s. We didn't. Similarly, we haven't prioritized trade with other partners in any meaningful way. Even after the first Trump presidency.
Federal and provincial politicians could have done any of the things they're rushing towards now, but they didn't care.
I'm sure Moe takes his share of responsibility for that in the interview. π¬
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think none of these things ensure Canadian sovereignty. Anything outside of nuclear weapons, and likely a significantly bigger army, is not contributing meaningfully to sovereignty.
Actually I think the better we're doing economically, the more attractive annexation target we are. Imagine being in a super envious position to the poor bastard with the biggest army in the world looking in.
We've been so discombobulated over the past few months because we don't have a backup plan. It's easy to joke about us being the 51st state because we are so tightly integrated with the US already.
If we were less reliant on US trade, unilateral US tariffs would be less effective. We would have partners and allies elsewhere. If Germany was reliant on our steel, or India was reliant on our aluminum, we would hopefully be able to wring support out of them.
We're talking hypotheticals, so it's hard to know what would change if we'd made different choices in the past. But, generally, bullies pick on those they can victimize. We're easy to victimize because we don't have an economic plan B.
It doesnt matter if there is a backup plan... Canada is the only G7 nation with a free trade agreement with every other G7 nation (not sure about the uk post brexit). Between Harper and Tredeau Canada has been negotiating and signing deals with dozens of other countries. Possibly.. in preparation for this.
I agree with you that reducing internal barriers is important, but where i disagree is that you cant just magically move trade as a country. Its up to each individual business. And despite the americans being shitty they still have a the worlds largest economy and our natural trading partner as they are right there, thats just geography, it makes shipping easier.
Its like brexit, the UK wanted to negotiate their own trade deals. Cool. Europe is still their largest trading partner, all they managed to do was fuck themselves.. Oh and sign a trade deal with austrailia worth 0.3% of their GDP.
What makes more sense to me is increasing public investment and having people in Canada build things, the idea economy is so much more important than digging shit out of the ground, or renting out things that sit on top of it. Actively working to replace the technologies that we are reliant on the US for.