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I think it is time for me to remind everyone, again...

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[–] Saljid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Important to note that in the original it was the "Communists" they came for not "Socialists". Link (German)

[–] eirenicon@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago

There are in fact quite a number of revisions of the quote. I have discovered that with numerous quotes. They evolve.

[–] circuit23@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even this poem minimizes the fact that the Nazis came after LGBTQ+ folks first.

[–] mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 hours ago

Yeah the Weimar Republic was many things and it was a pretty progressive place prior to 1933. Then it quickly changed.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Also a VIRULENT anti-semite. He was a giant piece of shit who had a nice shocked Pikachu moment when Hitler went back on his deal to let protestant churches do whatever they wanted without nazi interference.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Trans people can no longer get passports.

President Musk is a personally motivated transphobe.

Trans people are the first line in this iteration of the poem. We have already been abandoned by the Democratic party.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

They were first the last time too. That history had just been pretty much erased.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Make space for trans people in your lives.

Be prepared to help them shelter in place if necessary.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Instead of the Underground Railroad, this generation may have the Trans National Pipeline.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 7toed@midwest.social 2 points 5 hours ago

Fuck, I know its probably obvious and I'm wasting your time, what's that movies name again?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know why Niemöller omitted them, but in fact trans people were the first line in that iteration, too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft#Nazi_era

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

he also omittet the victims of t4. the poem is supposed to communicate an idea, its not a full list of all victims of the nazis. Besides, i dont know wether niemöller even knew of transgender people.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Besides, i dont know wether niemöller even knew of transgender people.

That's one reason why I didn't speculate on the reason for the omission.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Democratic party has no institutional power at the moment. Stop assessing blame to them and focus in who is allied and able to help.

Blaming the Democratic Party is completely useless, as useless as you believe them to be. In part they are captured, and in part they are literally in the jaws of a fascist government.

And you're still blaming them for this moment. They might end up at GITMO.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if they have no institutional power, there are other groups the Democratic party is still talking about, still trying to take action on.

They aren't even pretending to care about trans people any more.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's fair. I'd just rather see the left try to unify then assign blame and fall further to infighting.

We will need all the allies we can muster to pull through this.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think the left is relatively united by the left's standards.

The issue is that the Democratic party establishment is not part of the left.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Then we take it and remake it.

There is no time to create a new party and all recent efforts have failed.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

I think that needs to take the form of other groups who are willing to vote in coalition with the democrats, but not part of them.

The democrats are far better than the Republicans at exactly one thing: crushing their base and excluding it from power.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Dems have no institutional power when they are the majority. They are ineffective in everything they do. And theyve enabled the current fascists in power.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Trans, like all other marginalized communities, were only ever pawns for power to the DNC. Used to obtain their goals then tossed aside when they were no longer needed.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 17 points 1 day ago

Can we add the classic Don't Be a Sucker? Similar message about paying attention to what's happening to other people and not waiting until it's your turn.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

The lesson of history is to first come for the Nazis.