It makes me feel like it will be like The_Donald all over again. Started out as satire. People that unironically think like that join in and share their views. More of them come until they outnumber the satirists. Now it's just a pit of bad takes.

This should just be a sticky thread and comment everywhere in Lemmy.

I cant even participate on reddit anymore i just go there to get news and see some of the subs I used to be on. hopefully lemmy gets big enough soon so i wont be compelled to send traffic there. I was permanently IP banned for a response I made pointing out international law in regards to occupation and resistance as well as the origins of the idf(hagannah palmach & Lehi zionist paramilitary/terrorist groups who killed at least 5000 people in the several decades before 1948) reddit was already working overtime to silence dissent before this…. adjustment. And ive attempted to evade the ban 5 times to no avail.

The Flat Earth Society started this way, making fun of creationists.

R/TheDonald as prime example.

Well, they were joined by Russian psyops too, but the point still stands I think.

It seems they were never pretending. Just a bunch of boot rubber connoisseurs. It seems that UHC leadership might even have a direct hand in the creation of this subreddit.

So many gone that way.

It’s especially evident by the communities that started off with “edgy”/“offensive” jokes and quickly become far right echo chambers.

Thats almost verbatim some of the talking points i have seen in that sub.

Yeah it smells of astroturf. All the comments read like chatGPT. I think it's best to ignore and move on.

I don't believe for a second that some sleuthing podcasters have created some impeachable, wholly accurate representation of a whole ass person based solely on their goodreads posts or random trail of breadcrumbs left in Facebook selfies... give me a break with the parasocial psychoanalysis. no one fucking knows shit about anyone if all you have to go on is their posts or what their college classmate said.

more importantly, who fucking cares? folks need to stop pretending they were best friends with Anthony Bourdain or they SO RELATE to Taylor Swift. you don't know someone because you listened to a podcast or followed their insta. same applies to Luigi.

Actions >> (online bullshit, speculation, hype)

I don’t have a perception of him. I know virtually nothing about him, so I never built one.

I’m just glad he made a major problem impossible to ignore.

I could see the conservatism a mile away. There is a new version of conservative that Luigi fits in. Generally open on the big liberal values like queer rights, racial equality and abortion right, but mostly conservative minded mixed with an anarchistic literature influence. Ppl should study it and learn it vs the current ‘lump them into maga’ tendency that makes this group hard to spot.

It also seems he may have been radicalized during the time he went radio silent with his family. The only thing i see that points to him being conservative are posts about being against pornography which is a pretty exploitative industry in and of itself. However I personally believe sex work should be legalized/ regulated regardless of the nature of sex work. Prohibition in any industry only makes it more exploitative in my opinion

Im not saying he is surely a left or right leaning, most people in the us are somewhere center even those who consider themselves on the left. Im pretty far left. I often say i make bernie sanders look like newt gingrich

Regardless one can make a lot of social progress in a year and especially on a psychedelic self discovery journey its impossible to say for certain what his sociopolitical ideology is on a larger scale. It may be just speculation but i believe that from the time he spent volunteering at his family owned nursing homes he saw how disgusting and exploitative the health insurance industry was milking the elderly of all classes for their accumulated wealth to make a profit. This is very likely what radicalized him to see the corporate executive class as the parasites they are.

Also from the investigation i have done it seems he had a contentious relationship with his family especially his mother who may have lambasted him for idealistic and lofty ideals. And if he is indeed the one who pulled the trigger on december fourth then he did so knowing that he would be forfeiting a massive inheritance and ultimately betraying his upper class conservative capitalist roots. This is a very leftist revolutionary act in and of itself that cant be ignored regardless of what he may have written in his youth and posted on social media. I know in my early 20’s i was probably closer to the center than i am now. I once stupidly thought all lives matter was the right slogan and thought that things could be changed from within the system ie ballot box initiated change but now a decade or so later and I've come to accept reality for what it is.

I don't think we will be able to know much till after this trial is over. And the final verdict will likely impact how much he actually divulges on the speculated intent. I personally believe the “manifesto” ken klippenstien released that LEO gave journalists with an order not to publish isnt the legitimate document but rather the essay on the website pepmangione dot com slash manifesto sounded far more legitimate and something more so in line with what an ivy league educated individual would write but thats just my gut feeling.

But he sure united a lot of people across the political spectrum. So did kazinsk, in his writings. His actual acts units them against him though.

And I’m not the biggest fan of the authoritarian communists / the MLs. But they killed the most Nazis and I’ll never stop respecting that.

I did see that today, thanks! Do you or anyone else know if they will be streaming the court appearance tomorrow?

Well that goes without saying. But one would have thought that r/fuckluigimangione would have been about how people of all genders and orientations were cumming together wanting to actually fuck luigi mangione! But nope user flares include UHC representative and member of law enforcement