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[–] Lux18@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Spreading defeatist comments and pessimism, saying that this won't accomplish anything anyway and undermining the power of the collective is exactly what killed this movement in Croatia.

The movement started with a general spending boycott on fridays (so no money transactions - no stores, bars, gas stations, bank transactions etc), and a week long boycott of three supermarket chains that had the most egregious prices compared to other countries (those chains operate all over Europe, and their prices in other countries are far cheaper for the exact same products - despite lower operational costs in Croatia). After that, we switched to boycotting one chain every week.

The boycott was very effective. On the first friday of the boycott, the state financial department reported a 43% decrease in sales volume in the country. Just think about that for a second. And no - there has not been an increase in spending in the days before or after the boycott. In fact, they were still lower compared to the weeks before and the sales volume decreased in the following week by about 10%.

But like I said, unfortunately it died out over the next 4-5 weeks, with each boycott achieving lower decreases. And it died out exactly because of trolls that spread this defeatist attitude thinking they're so smart for seeing the "real" picture. Laughable.
Of course, the astroturfing has been insane, they really went berserk after the first friday. There's been an insane amount of bots posting comments that this doesn't work, that we should be protesting the government instead (as if holding signs in front of government buildings hurts them more than 50% less money flowing into the state piggy bank), that this hurts the citizens more than the conglomerates, that this will cause them to increase the prices to cover the losses etc etc. Just ridiculous claims all over social media.
And yeah, people got deflated and the movement died out.

Thanks idiots.

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[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 190 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The key thing to remember is that a one day blackout won't have an effect on the corporations. What it will do is get more people comfortable with taking action. If you can go one day without buying from Amazon, two days isn't much more, and then a week, and then a month. The idea is to ratchet up the action.

Just like how fascism has a progression to slowly "boil the frog," collective societal action does, too. This isn't an end but a beginning.

[–] nullPointer@programming.dev 23 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The problem with this approach is that the frog knows you are trying to boil it.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 44 points 6 days ago

I don't think it's much of a problem. People taking part want to do something to combat Trump and Elon, but many don't know how. And let's face it, it's kinda scary to try to go up against powerful people. This is an easy, low-threat way to get started. It's for Jim and Jane down the street who want to do something but don't know what and are afraid of going all in right now.

So, if they boycott for just a day as a symbol, they see it's not so bad. Hell, they may even make it two or three just on their own. Then the next call to blackout comes a month later, but this time it's for a week. Easy. Now, this time, they find alternative local businesses who align with their positions to get "emergency" supplies from. Then the next call comes for a month's blackout, and they realize that they haven't been buying from the big companies at all, so that's easy.

But, they still feel like they aren't doing enough. Isn't fighting supposed to be harder? So, they decide to attend a small protest. Then a bigger protest. Suddenly, Jim and Jane realize that they are going to city hall meetings, protests, etc., which they never thought they'd get involved in. And it started with just taking a day off from buying things.

Obviously, this won't happen for everyone where they get hyper-involved. For most, it'll probably just be doing the economic blackouts for however long at a time or just finding alternate places to do business so they feel like they're helping. And you know what, that's fine. If people turn away from the big businesses, even just 20%, that will start to show up.

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[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Amazon blackout, that's March 7th through March 14th.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

You’re half right. It does affect the corporations but not much. Change is change. Just need to be more proactive about it and keep continuing.

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[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Amazon blackout, March 7th through March 14th.

I'm personally making that my cut off point for using Amazon at all. And if it wasn't for their return policy I would have stopped quite a while ago.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

A boycott will be more effective if we laser-focus our efforts:

  1. Focus on Amazon, Tesla (anything Musky), & Meta
  2. Make the boycott permanent

As for me, I’ve done my part. I will never shop Amazon again, or purchase from any online store that uses Amazon for shipping, and all my Meta accounts have been permanently deleted. Done.

Why restrict it to a few days or a week “blackout” or whatever? That’s weak sauce. Everything you can find on Amazon, you can find elsewhere. Stop giving them money.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

It's been an amazon blackout since Bezos was front seat at the inauguration.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

For many of us, every day is Amazon blackout day. It really isn't that much of an inconvenience to shop elsewhere. You can do it too! I believe in you!

Also, your returns are likely to end up in a landfill.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Costco has a better return policy and still supports DEI. Though I’m not convinced Costco can replace some of the more niche items I order from Amazon.

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[–] raynethackery@lemmy.world 77 points 5 days ago (6 children)

One day at a time. Isn't that what the 12 Step groups say? People in this thread saying this won't do anything. You have to start somewhere. Don't be defeatist. Get involved. Unless you are just trolling to keep people from doing anything.

[–] anon593839@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (12 children)

Doomer do-nothings are so incredibly frustrating. I get the frustration, but spreading apathy is not useful. Authoritarianism flourishes when apathy takes root among the populace.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Real doing something is a long term boycott. Not a one day thing. Real doing something is labor organization, unions allow collaboration at a higher level, and allow you to strike back at the throat.

Even protesting at a leftist capital is doing more than a single day's blackout.

Go exercise your second amendment by a conservative senator's house if you really want to do something (and I don't mean that as a shoot them euphemism. Make them uncomfortable.)

[–] witten@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (8 children)

The organization that organized the economic blackout has longer-term boycotts planned in the coming weeks. This is just the opening salvo. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (4 children)

For real. Most Americans have probably never even participated in a “buy nothing” day, much less a pocket book protest against a government.

I don’t see what’s wrong with starting with one day, letting people get used to the concept, then dialing up the frequency once word of mouth has spread.

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[–] ClownsInSpace2@lemm.ee 71 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I just been not buying things most days. Anti-consumerism 2025

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago (9 children)

If everyone just holds off buying their shit until March 1st, or buys everything they will need Feb 27, then this blip won't have any effect.

You've got the right idea, if we want to actually hit them where it hurts. I'm doing the same, but not really by choice. I'm just broke.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago
[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Since Amazon doesn’t actually MAKE anything, just resells stuff, can’t we get a delete and cancel Amazon day too?

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

There is in the making. https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible/

This is the start and will keep growing.

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[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago (4 children)

it's going to take a much larger blackout. No one will notice one day. it's a start I guess but it's not going to accomplish anything. I've ditched amazon, walmart, target, etc,.. Buy local or even better, don't buy at all. You don't need the latest shiny distraction. vote with your wallet.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Got to start somewhere. Start small, send the message, get the word out, then dial up frequency and reach.

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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 days ago

May I present you all with the secondhand market. Please go back to using craigslist everyone. Craig never did you dirty and you left him hanging.

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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 days ago

I've been cleaning out the cupboards this month. Just going through all the random food stuff we have in the freezer and cupboard instead of buying anything

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