Seriously, where are 99% of the life begins at conception people on the meat industry?
I'm still waiting for them to stop celebrating birthdays.
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One single HUMAN cell, everyone knows humans are above all animals
If you're really being serious, then the answer is that most (or, at least, the vocal majority) of those people don't even really care about living children. I don't see that type of person generally giving any more care to a non-human being than they would a human being, and they already don't care about people other than themselves.
"Pro-life" has always been a misnomer. More honest descriptions would be "anti-choice" or "pro-forced birth."
It's anti-woman.
The real true reason most people are against abortion isn't because they don't believe it's a necessity. It's because they are afraid that some woman won't be punished for having sex. Whether or not the fetus survives isn't the point, it's that someone has to be punished for enjoying life.
Pro-life
In their mind, is still just breeding more cheap disposable labor
Serious in that they should stand up for non-human animals, but in the kind of way where you also know the answer as to why 99% aren't
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It's racism. They think human lives are more important than other races.
Speciesism, but yes
The human race thinks they're the supreme race, better than the other races.
It is so prevalent that this type of bigotry actually has its own name: specieism
beat me to it (by only 11h :D)
Yes, exactly. The complexity of the human soul is uncomparable to the basic impulses of any animal.
A single cell
Where exactly in the single cell is the soul stored?
Embryos don't have souls. The soul develops during the third trimester.
If you can play music into your belly and get a kick, that thing has a soul. But there's a lot of time where it's not that developed.
Poor choice of words on my part, perhaps. Maybe, if I chose "mind, instead of the more poetic word "soul" people would not reply about how an embryo is not ensouled.
But please tell me, was your original comment about racism towards animals sarcastic? It is sometimes hard to tell, and it seems almost like a position someone would hold.
I'm genuinely a vegan because I think racism is wrong.
Single cells don't have a mind either. Minds are made of neurons. An embryo begins developing neural cells during the fifth week of development. That's just a few neurons, though, not a full brain. A fetus doesn't get smart enough to process sounds until the late second. If a mind isn't even complex enough to process any sensory information, is it more deserving of life than a cow? Cows like to run in the grass and play. They have social relationships. Fetuses aren't that complex.
Obviously I am not talking about fetuses. I responded to the racism comment and the inner lives of people are generally not that complicated when tbey are in the womb. I am just using this as a reason to value humans over animals.
Also, minds are not made out of neurons, brains are.
If one human's inner life were more complex than another's, would you value their life more?
Says what, some ancient text?
Definitely seems the type to make Star Wars analogies
Some of them explain this away with "Humans have souls, animals don't".
And yet many can be up in arms about dogs & cats being eaten in some regions despite that claim
I don't care what species it is
I have three requirements for meat:
- It isn't human flesh
- It isn't rotten
- It's cooked properly
dogs go to dog heaven, duh
of they got souls! /s
Apparently that soul doesn't matter when trying to prevent it from dying from preventable diseases with vaccines and nurturing it with affordable education.
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I was just listening yesterday to this episode of Citations Needed
Citations Needed: Episode 80: Animal Rights as Media and Pop Culture Punchline
Episode webpage: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/citationsneeded/CN80_20190619_animal_rights_Gruen_Ko.mp3
They are pro-birth. They are absolutely not pro-life.
I think they're anti-woman.
Think? We fucking know.
That explains the obsession with cows' milk...
Anytime someone throws a fit about noncows milk being called milk, "Like, you know why they produce milk, right?"
Yeah but if babies were delicious we would eat them too
Is this implying you know for certain that human babies aren't? Maybe we should be a little concerned how you figured that one out
So I ate a baby big whoop wanna fight about it?
Baby Big Whoop? Damn there's a whole product line now?
I've got a modest proposal for you...
I wanted to say that but wasn't swift enough.
I'm told humans taste like pork.
Some cultures that actually have cannibalism refer to human flesh as "long pig" or similar because of the resemblance.
But that's different!
Honestly though, is "but it's different" a proper informal fallacy?
Not quite identical, but there are some that are close
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