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America is pro Russian anti Europe. This charade of pretending like the US isn't is a waste of time.
Just saying...it's fucking Trump and his genocidal narcissistic billionaire Nazis that are sucking Russian cock...There are millions of us agast and horrified at this goddamn heel turn to Russian scum...and fuck me lots of us in the US are dumber than dog shit with no ability for critical thought.
Slava Ukraine!
Trump and Elon are. I doubt the same is true for most actual Americans.
Sentiments of "most" Americans matters as much as "most" Russians. Useless equivalent of thoughts and prayers when it doesn't stop the people in charge.
Sad but true 🙁
Maybe not, but the majority of voters apparently support Trump - so effectively that means USA as a country supports Trump. (And thus the USA as a country is no longer reliable or trustworthy.)
Who is in charge, though?
Grossly misinformed and deliberately un(der)educated voters.
Hard pass. He would just use the opportunity to rant at our diplomats like he did with Zelenskyy. We wouldn't want to sign any deals with a criminally insane dictator anyway.
The bond is broken, the ship has sailed. Time for us to pursue a Europe First strategy. Post haste, preferably.
And it's not just investments into military hardware we need to make but also pharmaceuticals, semiconductors, etc. We need to become independent as soon as possible.
The groundwork is there. We can do it if we really want. MEGA will beat MAGA, and screw Trump and his puppet master.
As an American, I endorse this message.
MEGA is a great idea, just don't let maggots...I mean magat style insanity infiltrate. I'm so ashamed of my country
I hope so. A good step would be for the UK to rejoin the EU but that seems unlikely to happen in the next decade. But we need to build solidarity and resilience, and like you say, increase our independence as much as feasible
Meloni warned that Western division "makes us all weaker"
No shit, that is literally the reason Trump is being divisive
I am Italian and I beg the EU to ostracize Meloni and Orban as much as possible, especially in this crucial moment. As fascists and Putin puppets just like Trump, their simple plan is stall things long enough for Ukraine to be in an even worse situation.
I am not Italian, rather swedish, but what I have seen from Meloni in reality is that she has taken a very firm stance against Putin and his war on Ukraine and has given huge amounts of military equipment (scroll down to Italy to see what military equipment they have given) and and money to Ukraine. Meloni has never stood in the way of political decisions to support Ukraine or sanctions against Russia to my knowledge, rather has been at the forefront of implementing them and has continuously condemned Putin and Russia's agression. Exactly in what way is Meloni a puppet of Putin?
We give a lot because we produce a lot. Italy's arms export grew 86% between 2019 and 2024.
And while we are too weak to be openly against our major trade partner, Germany, she is also balancing her act with our second trade partner, the USA and trying to explain her electorate that she is still the one they voted for who called Orbán an exemplary leader, all while Salvini, another prominent member of her government, screamed for a Peace Prize to Trump as soon as he appeared to give in to Putin.
Right now Starmer and Meloni are what is dragging everyone else's feet on a United EU Defense plan and an EU-led diplomatic move towards Russia.
In the 100 years old tradition of fascist parties in Italy, she is also subject to the whims of much more powerful actors internally and externally.
Don't know what business a russian puppet state has being in NATO. The sooner the US is kicked out of NATO the better.
I would start from removing dollar reserves from european banks. The value of money is only when people believe it have value. So if US money won't have any value Europe won't need US help.
I approve. As an American, I have been trying to swap my savings for Euros, because it feels like that the American Dollar will hyperinflate. However, I have a concern:
Musk is likely to try to install a Muskcoin and create a X Everything app, so that he can control the money of Americans. The EU will need to offer Euro banking services in the Blue States to oppose the establishment of Muskcoin. Also, blacklist American billionaires from European fiscal institutions, such as not accepting the swap of Musk's dollars for Euros or EU properties.
I've never expected that the Cyberpunk eurodollar is about to be defictionalized.
Gonna get me some Eddies
DOGE will fuck with the FDIC, force banks out of business. Musk tweets "Don't worry, X has secured a contract from this great administration and have started XBank! All accounts and money from all US-based banks, credit unions, and other financial institutions will be migrated to XBank. Download the app immediately. X account is required to access the XBank app. This will be the only way to access your money so get your account today!"
I understand that Meloni is struggling with cognitive dissonance here because she loves Trump and the American far right but also recognizes Russia as the obvious enemy to Europe that they are (and thereby making Ukraine our natural ally).
But the time for courting is over. America has become a hostile nation and they might actually be our enemy soon.
Increase European integration and federalization. Increase defense spending and fund a European MIC. Organize into a joint European army. This and only this can be our way forward or we will be crushed between two fascist superpowers.
Italian here:
Meloni and her government do not perceive Putin as an enemy AT ALL. One of the most prominent members of her government even said Putin should receive a Nobel Peace prize.
Meloni and Orban are just fascists, in the case of Meloni even belonging to the excised appendix of a literal Fascist party.
Please take them at face value!
Thank you, I’m aware they’re fascists but it seems I was a bit misinformed about their stance on Ukraine and Russia.
I couldn't agree more. I'm an outsider to Europe, unfortunately, and find myself as a Canadian increasingly seeing America in much the way Ukraine must have felt about Russia in 2010. Europe is the last hope for democracy and the rule of law in the world right now.
How fucked is the world, when Meloni is the reasonable one...
I'm Italian and I would have never thought that Meloni would be the reasonable one in this shit. Oh well.
Europe really needs to beef up its defense industries and whatnot. America's unreliability is becoming an existential threat and it's clear that Trump and Co will be extremely opportunistic and quick to align with Russia.
Meloni probably wants to congratulate Trump.
Italy needs to understand that thinking you can reason with Trump makes Europe weaker.
In fact, this works with all countries. He’s a literal baby. He doesn’t understand or want to hear your reasoning because he knows he’s right. As soon as everybody understands that, the quicker they can get to the task of isolating the US as much as possible.
Italy is probably not acting in good faith. Meloni is a serious piece of shit.
Too late Meloni. The EU needs to decide without the AmeriKans.
AmeriKlans XD
What does she think she's going to accomplish inviting the US, except sabotage?
Oh wait, she's a fascist -- that's exactly what she's hoping to accomplish.
Who's gonna be representing murica there? Is it gonna be this happy threesome?
The USA absolutely cannot be trusted as an ally. If a war we're to break out right now I truly do not know what side I'd be on.