How my Firefox became a LibreWolf
New blog-post: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1065/how-my-firefox-became-a-librewolf
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this post was submitted on 01 Mar 2025
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
For me, it is, honestly, sad. I've been using Firefox since... it was Firebird. Twenty+ years.
Great art, as always!
From the blog post...
You won't be pampered with a one-click installation for all. Instead, you'll need to take the time to review the documentation and set up the security and privacy features that you're willing to trade off for comfort and convenience.
Yeah, ouch, thats not going to sell with the Plebs, and limit buy-in from them, and market share.
They really should try to fix that, and not just hand wave it away as a problem.
Market share is the lifeblood of the browser wars.
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Pleb here
You are correct
Everything is on by default. So is actually quite easy.
It's very nice because you don't really have to worry about which add-ons you need.
It's about the most simple browser I've ever used.
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world "[...] not going to sell with the Plebs"
😆 I don't think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs. As far as I know it's a community initiative, not a company. Yes, it require time to install and setup, and understand the implication of what security and privacy setting one decide to lower. But I'm happy I took this time, I feel I understand even more how the web of 2025 is broken and how web browser interacts with it to try to ease the experience.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world I mean I don't hate for-profit companies that much unless they have done questionable/nefarious things repeatedly; but I really don't like for-profit companies hiding behind non-profits/benefit corporations/co-ops especially to do questionable things.
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For android, there's also fennec on fdroid
i have ironfox for android.
Gorgeous artwork friend!
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Excellent art, as always.
I switched this week too. It was very simple on Linux Mint, but I worry about the future of the Firefox code base.
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
I'm hooked on the Wolf, been using it for over a year.
Once in a while I use furryfox for some fussy-ass site that I have to do one thing on once in a blueish moon.
@matera@mastodon.sdf.org Haha, I typed in a search engine for "furryfox" before realizing it was your way of naming Firefox. 😆
Catchy name.
Yes, I'll keep my Firefox too in background. Right now mainly to compare when I have an issue with LibreWolf, and also to test my blog and peppercarrot website. 😉
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
For those coming here in search of Firefox alternatives, I just want to point out https://zen-browser.app/ that is also a fork of Firefox though perhaps a more customised fork... Check it out if you are in the mood for trying a different layout from the default Firefox experience...
i also have floorp./
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
@protonprivacy@mastodon.social also flounced off Mastodon after they received well deserved criticism.
Is @mozillaofficial@mastodon.social doing the same? 🫤🤷♂️
@simonzerafa@infosec.exchange @protonprivacy@mastodon.social @mozillaofficial@mastodon.social I'm not sure how official the account you linked here is, the branding feels off and it's not really noted in the bio this is their official new account.
Before December, Mozilla had their instance, and decided to remove it ( src. https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/17/mozilla-exits-the-fediverse-and-will-shutter-its-mastodon-server-in-december/ )
Proton also really manage their PR like rotten potatoes imo ( https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/ )
... both company also abuse marketing bs wording and praise AI. Not surprising they are criticized here.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @simonzerafa@infosec.exchange @protonprivacy@mastodon.social @mozillaofficial@mastodon.social I mean something as simple like text-to-speech or OCR or machine translation models (like Google Translate/DeepL) can be considered "AI" technically. I'm a student and many courses involving creating our own models from scratch and many of my projects involving use models like tesseract-ocr, turtle-tts, YOLO, LLaMA,... for some tasks and this is painful for me as many outputs don't even make sense and I had to tweak a lot.
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org yippiee
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Excellent, as usual.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Ce projet LibreWolf semble sympathique mais pas compatible avec firefox syncs, ce qui est sans doute logique, mais sans alternative.
Je teste également Floorp...
J'ai utilisé LibreWolf et il a bien fonctionné avec Firefox sync. Si je me souvenir bien, il faut activer (permettre) Firefox sync dans les options. Maintenant, j'utilise Floorp. Il, également, bien fonctionne avec Firefox sync.
(Désolé pour mon mauvais français.)
I have used LibreWolf and it works well with Firefox sync. If I am remembering correctly, it must be enabled in the options. Right now, I use Floorp. It also works well with Firefox sync.
(Sorry for my poor French.)
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LibreWolf needs to adopt a Foxkeh like mascot since Mozilla refuses to do it even though it would make them so much bank and popularity. <3
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I switched to LibreWolf two month ago and it works nicely.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Thanks for this post and the fun artwork, you convinced me to finally make the jump!
I am going to ladybird it bro
@rony4102@programming.dev Well, I visited their webpage and read their Wikipedia. But only checking they are still active on X was a red flag to me so far to get interested in.
Is it worth running LibreWolf without fingerprinting disabled? It's kind of a dealbreaker that it doesn't save zoom options on websites. At least I could handle having to run another browser to use Netflix...
@Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com That's exactly where I found it educative to have to be personally facing this dilemma and having to choose.
Here I decided to allow fingerprinting, because mainly I really like when a blog or website switch to dark mode automatically. Without that, all website were in light theme, and it felt very difficult to me to browse the web like that now...
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Cute
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
I wonder what the Linux distros that have Firefox in the default install are going to do going forward?
#linuxmint #linux
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I still use Firefox, but I disabled sending any data to Mozilla.
Thanks for not contributing to Chromium monopoly. :)
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org i deleted firefox litllery just today from my distro, and replaced it with librewolf
its working great!
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org somehow, my #librewolf makes weird alignment in some sites... is there a way to make the text align left?
It's not a big deal but it can be annoying sometimes
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org good luck getting sec patches in time
Honestly. The biggest dilemma browsers seem to have isn't just funding but how to maintain they're absolutely massive code bases.
Either we really do a very large and robust org like the Linux kernel group, or we need to find a way to massive reduce the complexity of the browser.
Servo is exciting and ladybird too. Maybe their fresher starts can bring in the opportunity to do that.
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org je te suis et pas que pour la qualité de ton travail ! je vais l'installer de suite sur mon portable Frame.Work Fedora. Et pour ton mobile, tu as choisi quoi ?
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@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
The catoon also works for MoonWolf.
🤭
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org same same.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Note that if you are concerning about security, you may want to enable Google Safe Browsing as well (I know this is from Google, but implementation from Mozilla is making sense and even Librewolf devs are considering enabling it if it wasn't for user self-compiling issues). I'm a CS student myself but I don't think I'm that savvy for checking every site I go though.
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Oh, I am considering moving to LibreWolf currently too
@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Got rid of Chrome for Chromium I guess Firefox will have to be replaced with an alternative as well since they decided to follow in Google's footsteps.
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