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Despite Elon Musk’s claims of “maximal transparency,” the Trump administration now argues that records from DOGE are exempt from Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests.

A court filing states DOGE, rebranded from the U.S. Digital Service, is a "free-standing component" of the Executive Office of the President and falls under the Presidential Records Act.

Watchdog groups have sued, arguing that DOGE’s activities, which involve sweeping access to federal agencies, must be publicly accessible.

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[–] cyphear@lemm.ee 10 points 15 hours ago

Kafka couldn't even think something like this up.

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 46 points 22 hours ago

DOGE’s FOIA exemption is a direct assault on accountability and public trust.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 58 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Maximally transparent" in the same sense that Musk is a "free speech absolutist".

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the same sense that "he's not a nazi"... because he's a fucking nazi!

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

His feelings about free speech are very absolute. Absolutely authoritarian. Get back in line and have you papers ready!!

[–] ghostfish@lemm.ee 41 points 23 hours ago

It's so transparent that you can't even see it.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 196 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

If a Democrat tried this shit the Republicans would be out for political blood calling the left "deep state" and other horrifying shit, let they're fine with an apartheid loving Nazi immigrant dismantling their government and refusing to answer for his crimes.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 110 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Republicans would be out for political blood calling the left "deep state" and other horrifying shit

And they'd be right. An unelected billionaire gutting the government and hiding their actions is deep state activity

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 39 points 1 day ago

It’s not deep state, it’s a coup.

In essence, a coup is a 1) rapid seizure of state power by unelected actors, who acquire that power by 2) seizing critical government infrastructure and 3) weaponizing it to neutralize legitimate government actors' efforts to stop them. The unelected actors then use this power to 4) remake the rules of the political game in a way that cannot easily be checked or undone through democratic processes.

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Deep? Can Musk and DOGE count as deep state with how new they are to government (if you can call DOGE that)? He's not even from the US, he's so far out he's circled back around to deep state.

Then again, foreign actors blatantly controlling the white house seems to be the trend right now

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think deep state here refers to unelected government officials.

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

I think more its meaning would be shit that goes on behind the scenes where the public cannot see. Aka… things immune to FOIA requests.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I agree 100% this is all horseshit

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

Don't worry. The Dems will start calling them out in the same way ...anytime now.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The Republicans would happily let fElon and Bronzo take a dump in their mouths if they thought some Democrat had to smell it.

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 163 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's easy to claim transparency when you lie about everything

[–] m4xie@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He claims transparency, but we see right through him.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Every right leaning person I've talked with about this claims "unparalleled transparency" with these guys. What, a bunch of self written social media posts? Full transparency would be detailed reporting that would also we'd have the ability to verify via a third party. What these guys are doing is the equivalent of, "trust me, bro."

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

For some reason the "do you own research" crowd seems to not be doing that.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

Of course not, the bias is strong.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I sometimes think of those redcaps as something out of a sci-fi movie where they take over any normal brain function.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

You're just being paranoid. You know what would help? A nice relaxing trip to the brain slug planet where you can lay in the sun with no helmet on.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Freedom of speech maximalist > no freedom of speech on his platform

Transparency maximalist > no transparency in his agency

Who could have seen that coming?

[–] michel@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago

Don’t forget Tesla lying about many things and saying it’s “free speech” to lie to customers, and being very obstructionist when releasing safety data

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

This is what dictators do. Grab power and place it under their control.

Trump will whittle away at the other branches of government until there's nothing left, and then he will say we don't need those other branches since they don't do anything and dissolve them.

This has been played out many times.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

No, no, no. You lefties always calling everything fascism. Musk is weeding out government waste and corruption. Trump is donating his entire presidential salary, he's doing this out of the kindness of his heart. You liberals are all so gullible and reactionary. Just calm your pants down, once the taffis go through and we remove the evil migrant criminals it will be infinite money for everyone. Except you commies because you're all too dumb to realize.

I could go on but the McDonalds employee is eyeballing me. They hate it when I use their wifi. It's going to be great when I don't have to do my laundry in their bathroom anymore because I'll have my own 24k gold mansion.

BTW any cuties out there dm me. Just be aware, I want 10 kids so better have a good set of birthing hips.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

This could actually be serious until the second paragraph.

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)
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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The corruption is just in your face. I bet "maga" is eating it right the fuck up, too, the idiots, because....libs:owned. Or something.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some perhaps, but if you look at the videos from recent repug town halls, even maga is pissed. I’m talking reps can’t complete statements due to being drowned out by boos in +30 red districts. There are opportunities here for a real populist party to form if people are able to seize it.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

reps can’t complete statements due to being drowned out by boos in +30 red districts

They're still trying to blame it on "bussed in Democrat paid agitators".

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, maybe. The oligarchs have proven themselves quite capable (in the past, anyway) of directing that anger anywhere else but where it should be directed, so I guess we will see.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Words and law don't work with them.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'll never get over the pretentious way the Orange Menace poses for the camera. And it makes me want to punch him every time.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He looks like a corpse with poorly done casket makeup

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago

He looks to me like Biff Tannen just got another face-full of manure.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Every picture looks like he’s focusing not shitting himself

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Prolly can't figure out where and how the shit is stored.

I've seen a setup once, involving airflow, pgsql with a few different databases for different systems, a few CSV and Excel files stored on webdav shares, a few ETL scripts, some not working, in a weird graph, and a Microstrategy instance used to view a report or two resulting from that.

That was probably a job safety mechanism of the leaving data analyst, though. I'm not sure how such chaos could have been created on purpose and other things he did seemed very clean.

Or they just don't want to and are arguing the definition of "agency"

[–] PlantPowerPhysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

uint8_t transparency = 255;

...

transparency++;

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Your honor I'm not subject to that law under the clause I said so." Judges love hearing that.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Judges also love not flying out of windows.

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

That photo is perfect, they both look completely ridiculous (well, more so than usual).

Normally I'd say "that's not how it works" but given the shit we've seen it might in fact work

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