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This is my first post on lemmy so bear with me. Last week someone associated with the US govt floated the idea of kicking Canada out of the Five Eyes network. A week later… would you look at that. Thoughtless and unwarranted actions have consequences.

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[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago

A lot of people - including me - instinctively say "good, let's make it the four eyes and exclude the US."

But really, we need to do away with the x-eyes program entirely, in its current form.

Shared intelligence is great, but the biggest advantage to 5Eyes has always been that it indirectly allows countries to spy on their own citizens. It's invasive, illegal bullshit that needs to stop.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

no country should share intelligence with the US considering sharing intelligence with the US under trump is just handing it directly to putin

[–] thijsje@social.vivaldi.net 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

@cupcakezealot @CircaV Except for impending terrorist attacks. Otherwise I agree.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why should one of the eyes (Canada) help the country trying to annex it through economic means?

[–] thijsje@social.vivaldi.net -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@NotSteve_ Because someone blowing himself up at a daycare is evil

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So is annexing/crippling your ally or cutting off all aid to Ukraine (including intelligence)

[–] thijsje@social.vivaldi.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

@NotSteve_ I agree. I Just dont think letting baby's die is the correct answer. I mean fuck the fucking fucks. But that does not include the little ones.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah, that’s fair. Admittedly I think the US ~~would~~ has even warned Russia of impending terrorist attacks (before the US and Russia became good friends)

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US has informed Russia of suspected upcoming terrorist attacks, under a “duty to warn” policy. Iran, too. Whether that information was sufficient or useful, we have only the State Department’s word, but it is still worth noting.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I actually meant to write has instead of would. I was actually thinking of the concert hall attack when writing my comment

[–] thijsje@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

@NotSteve_ Well thr US infact did do that. Remember that big ISIS attack on a moscow concert hall about a year ago?

Edit: seems like a lifetime ago

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Oops, I wrote “would” but I actually meant to write “has”. The concert hall attack was exactly what I had in mind writing my comment

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Such things could be published openly with the world.

[–] DiaDeLosMuertos@aussie.zone 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for your first post here. I'm very new and have only posted some sunrise pics. Well anyway, a friend of mine back in England about 32 years ago said to me that "America is the greatest threat to world peace". I didn't believe him and didn't understand. I was obviously a lot younger, and a lot more ignorant to the way of the world.
Well, look at it all now. John, you were actually making sense, thanks.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Fucking john

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Haha, nerds, sharing their intelligence

meanwhile, USA is smoking meth in the bathroom

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

how can I claim this is Canada's fault?

[–] kbal@fedia.io 40 points 2 days ago

"President Trump will work with any ally or partner who understands the dangerous world inherited after the disastrous Biden years"

a whiff of Führerprinzip coming from the White House

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good post about the five eyes, thanks.

Now, about posting here on Lemmy, you may want to know that :

You can edit your post (title, url and header) even after it is posted.

Here a link has this format :
[name](http://abc.def.com/...)

not this :
[[Five Eyes network]()]()

[–] sunfur82@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Good. The US should be given the cold shoulder, or not be given the same access and information they had before. They can’t be trusted. Does anyone really think he wouldn’t share any information he’s given with his Russian handlers? Right now, they're a threat to the other four members' national security.

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

Good, now to eliminate the other eyes and not have loopholes like five eyes allowing countries to illegally spy on their own citizens.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Good. Fuck Five Eyes.

Pirates: oh no.... Oh no that CAN'T be? Say it isn't TRUE! 😂

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

The USA was always the odd man out...