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[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I watched this today and really enjoyed it.

I'm not going to pretend it's the greatest or deepest sci-fi film ever made, but it's fun if you are into dystopian; it's almost Gilliam esc. but it doesn't quite embrace it fully.

The Messianic cult leader is a little on the nose and as 2D as his realife inspiration is.

It doesn't explore all the possibilities or offer real depth to what is a complex topic, but as a soft sci-fi story it's a fun and sometimes funny way to pass a couple of hours.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Gilliam esc

Gilliam-esque? Gibson-esque?

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Gilliam-esque, the scientists in particular are very Brazil/12 monkeys like

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

I just went over to metacritic to see how the film is being reviewed, and BOY are the chuds mad. I saw a literal Nazi username saying the movie sucks blah blah blah. Went to report it but you need an account for that. Makes me want to see it in theatres even more now

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Just saw the trailer, I like the tone, hope it’s good.

I’m still mad at snow piercer… why the fuck do they need to be constantly moving? That’s the worse thing for heat insulation!

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Snow Piercer is not about a train. It's about capitalism, communism, revolutions and anarchism. The train is the capitalist world and the final message is anarchist.

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, complaining about the science of Snowpiercer is kind of like complaining that the animals in Animal Farm talk

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It depends on which Snowpiercer you're watching. The movie is about the revolution. The series is about lazy people fucking up the working system.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago
[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Okay sure but can’t you have all of that without the train?

Imo a bunker would be a much better metaphor, especially since Ed Harris’ character believed their world was eternal (it was hard to believe it was running for that long).

I like the director and his critique on capitalism but imo he did it wrong. Especially give that the ending…

Tap for spoiler…was the self destruction of humanity, given the train crashed, not anarchy.

Imo the movie would have been semi saved if they just showed a tribe of Eskimos at the end, not a polar bear.

That would be perfect, it would show that humanity would live on, but clearly the capitalistic system that was preserved on a train was self destructive and always meant to crash.

[–] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

But you can't "derail" a bunker. And the point of the ending was that neither capitalism not communism are the answer.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 4 points 23 hours ago

It's not exactly hard scifi

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The idea of 3D printed resurrection machines isn't new. It's pretty much the whole basis of the Undying Mercenaries series by B.V. Larson

[–] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the concept also has a LOT of space to play in but most writers play it safe. Way too many just treat is as a handwavy checkpoint system and move on with the plot they care about.

Soma (video game, not a book) was a really horrifying dive into being able to save and upload a consciousness. Not a lot of stories try to dive into how do you know if a "copy" of you is truly a copy. It's like a Turing test on steroids trying to figure this out. Being able to practically test just how different someone can be from a single different event.

It's one of the things I really enjoyed about the Bobiverse series (although apparently later on they added the idea of a soul, which just kinda seems like a cop out to me)

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Not really a soul, more like an explanation why the bob clones are different and why they can’t just make 1:1 clones of an each other - even when their consciousness moves from one place to another.

They just called it a “soul” in lack of a better name.

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The cloning in space narrative was also covered by Moon (2009).

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a bit of a spoiler, isn't it?

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With respect to Moon? Yes, but the movie has been out for 16 years.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Dude we had people whining about FF7 spoilers when the remake was announced, people just be eeber jeebers.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Haven't seen it. Good?

I should add it to my list

[–] Scary_le_Poo@beehaw.org 1 points 14 hours ago

Tbh kinda boring

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's more pensive and slow, with a darker mood, but the script is really good.

[–] eldoom@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Oh man I cannot wait for the new one next month!

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] phx@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah. The MC is a jackass but he does learn a bit over the series and there's some depth to the thoughts on how little would react to being able to come back from dying repeatedly (and the first "training scenario") under most scenarios.

[–] PenguinMage@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I enjoy that he's just some shit kicker at the beginning and really has learned over the series (though there's like 18 books now so it's not hard to imagine). Though he is quite a Gary Sue.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Hmmm, interesting! I've seen a lot of ads for it but was unsure. Maybe something to watch when/if or comes to home watching?