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Tusk: Right now, 500 million Europeans are begging 300 million Americans for protection from 140 million Russians who have been unable to overcome 50 million Ukrainians for three years (www.politico.eu)

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Well put Mr. Tusk.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody is begging. Politicians are using "defence" as a leverage to enpower and enrich themself

[–] Thebigguy@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 hours ago

Seeing as I invented this meme I’ll overuse it

[–] superkret@feddit.org 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

And Germany is taking on 1 trillion Euros in new debt to protect against Russia, which is currently spending less on its military than the EU, while fighting a war.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

citation needed.

I've seen the €800b figure but that's the EU as a whole, not Germany on its own

[–] superkret@feddit.org 11 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Germany is currently planning a "whatever it takes" spending plan of 500 billion for infrastructure projects and an equally high, but potentially unlimited amount for defense.
https://www.ft.com/content/ee20978f-bbcd-4616-954c-7749dc5334fd

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 6 points 15 hours ago

So ok, that’s not one trillion.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.org 9 points 20 hours ago

Over 10 years

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Paywall so can't see whats written in that ft article. Deutsche Welle says 400bn for defense plus 500bn for infrastructure investment over 10 years

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

He knew that before Trump's election but didn't make it an issue. He also knows that it implies that Russia will never attack Poland, let alone Poland allied with Europe.

What's the real need for the strengthened military?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

What’s the real need for the strengthened military?

same as it ever was

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

Doesn't Russia want to see Nato entirely gone?

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