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Nissan to go all-electric by 2030 despite petrol ban delay::The carmaker moves ahead with its plan despite delays to the UK's ban on new petrol and diesel cars.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah because they know that what the Tories announce at this point is essentially just irrelevant and shouldn't be taken the seriously.

[–] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have a whole world market to serve, I don’t think they give a fuck about UK politics

[–] LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However Nissan do have R&D and manufacturing facilities in the UK, so the law would affect them directly ... also, outside the EU has anyone else proposed a set date to end ICE car sales?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LucyLastic@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Belgiums looking good there!

It's good to see that there's a few other countries going for it too, I guess there's large parts of the world where it's going to be near impossible though due to distances and lack of electricity (until solar cars are cheap and plentiful, but we might have all perished by then, lol)

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I want the Tories out NOW but I think we still have another year or 2 with them :/

[–] awesomesauce309@midwest.social 37 points 1 year ago

They gotta put the new Z body on an electric base. I’d trade up

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the petrol ban delay wouldn't have happened if THE GOVERNMENT WASN'T SO INCOMPETENT!! I don't see any initiatives to build electric car charger infrastructure everywhere!

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

I'd have to agree with some of the proposed ban dates here in the US as well. You can't just mandate something without also building up the infrastructure to support it. 2030 will be here in the blink of an eye but it doesn't seem like there is any rush to build out public charging stations, mandate chargers in places like apartment complexes, or upgrade the grid to handle this new load. I suspect a lot of these will get pushed back as their dates approach. It's very easy to say "at ABC point in the future all things must be XYZ." It's much more difficult to actually have things ready for that proposed date.

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Reminder:
Nissan cars collect sexual activity and genetics data

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Like from the backseat?

[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You really need a source if you're going to say this

[–] GreenSkree@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

He's probably talking about the article released by Mozilla a few weeks ago.

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/

But basically all car manufacturers have absolutely terrible privacy policies.

[–] Nima@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I knew that Nissan Sentra was the kiss-and-tell type. never should have slept with that car.

[–] mightygalahad@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago

I would guess by either having cameras & microphones in and around the car recording you having sex or talkijg about preferences or by installing their app on your phone it might grant permissions to gather all types of data on you

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 10 points 1 year ago

Future policies work like that. The ban won't have to be enforced, because it'll be irrelevant before it's in effect. UK stepping back won't affect the actual change. Only idiots would invest money in technology that'll be obsolete in the territory "everywhere worldwide (except UK)".

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully they start using active cooling on their batteries...

[–] KaJedBear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just got the Ariya which has active cooling. I think the leaf still doesn't though.

[–] PizzasDontWearCapes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are your initial impressions of the Ariya?

[–] KaJedBear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's been great so far, but it's my first EV so comparisons are difficult. It checked all the major boxes I was looking for, particularly AWD and range close to 300mi. It has a lot of creature comforts that were an upgrade from the Impreza I had previously, but nothing you can't get in an ICE; heated steering and seats, remote climate control, and other tech upgrades.

If you like buttons and knobs then you might not like the Ariya; they went for a very minimalist design and most controls are on the touch screen. That hasn't been too much of an issue for me.

The plus models with eForce are plenty quick (scared the shit out of my wife the first time we gunned it down the freeway). It is heavy though, as one would expect. Overall, for the price point it's a solid choice if you want something more like an SUV than the ioniq 5 or the EV6. The overall build quality seems quite good (Hyundai and Kia appears just felt a little flimsy to me). I am quite happy with it so far.

Good to hear it's decent. The more competitors in the mid-price EV market, the better

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Nissan will accelerate plans towards electrification by committing that all vehicles sold in Europe will be electric by 2030.

Car trade body the SMMT has voiced concerns that the postponement of the ban would see consumers delay the switch to electric vehicles.

Nissan will also introduce new battery technology by the end of the decade that it said will reduce both the charging time and cost of electric vehicles (EVs).

In an interview with the BBC, Mr Uchida said the company was aiming to bring down the cost of electric vehicles for customers, so that they were no more expensive than petrol and diesel cars.

Last year, it announced plans to invest £1bn in expanding the facility that sits next to its Sunderland car plant.

Business Secretary Kemi Badenoch recently told the BBC the government was optimistic that a deferral could be secured.


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[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm assuming this affects any Electron app as well, right?

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Wrong post?

Lost lemmings…

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hhmm what about their navaras, patrols, etc? Electric can't tow caravans, trailers, etc around the Australian outback yet. Is this just UK?

[–] dmonzel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The very first sentence of the article:

Nissan will accelerate plans towards electrification by committing that all vehicles sold in Europe will be electric by 2030.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Aye! Nice one

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

UK is not Europe. I wonder if they're exempt? 🤔

[–] dmonzel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's still an entire article with more information. I just grabbed the first sentence to help you out.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

True that. I was incredibly lazy. Thank you though

[–] Longpork_afficianado 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Electric motors can deliver a lot more torque than ICEs, which makes them very much suitable for towing in terms of power, they just need to deliver larger battery packs to compensate for the weight of the towed vehicles, otherwise the range will be limited.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

That they can. 100% torque at 0 rpm. The issue is reliable distance capabilities in remote areas. Currently, they just can't do it.