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[โ€“] mtchristo@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Labour are shooting themselves in the foot. Instead of proposing a tax on the ultra wealthy to try and subsidize buying less polluting cars. They are forcing the poor to buy cars they can't afford in cities where public transport is both not complete and expensive. They have lost touch with the working class. Alienating them against climate action. And driving them to the arms of the Tories.

[โ€“] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

None of this post is about Labour...

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[โ€“] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

God cursed bri'ins with horrible teeth as punishment for their many sins.

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[โ€“] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (12 children)

As someone forced to drive for their commute, who has frequently been made late by cyclists forcing emergency stopz, and who hates the way things are currently going on the roads, this isn't going to win my vote.

The issue is that I'm forced to drive due to public transport being too expensive, unreliable, and, let me be frank, unsafe in some areas if you're transporting a laptop after dark. Ever tried to move a box of teaching supplies around on a bike, ye god's never again!

I don't want freed up bus lanes, I want more buses with a guard on then after dark. The roadworks fines, I think everyone wants that sorted out because it hits buses really hard. As for parking - definitely - better parking for bikes outside local shops, and safe storage for people travelling on public transport with luggage or heavy loads.

Less popular but definitely needed - insurance for bike users and mandatory licenses (sorry but some folks out there are accidents waiting to happen on a bike).

[โ€“] octochamp@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I both drive and cycle for commuting, and having experience with both it's hard to imagine what practical use mandatory insurance would be for cyclists, given that only third-party insurance is mandatory for drivers, and it's largely to cover the huge amount of physical damage someone can create with a 2-tonne block of metal propelled by an engine, something that really isn't comparable to ~10kg powered only by one person's legs.

and yeah sure hypothetically a cyclist could make a mistake that indirectly causes a car to cause an accident but this relatively very rare compared to the hundreds of accidents directly caused by drivers every day, and even rarer that the accident would be solely the fault of one party (ie. if a cyclist in front of a driver did a bad maneuver and the driver had to do an emergency stop, the driver was probably far too close to the cyclist)

at the end of the day, calls for cyclists to have insurance or licence plates usually come from people who are less invested in whether or not these are practical solutions, and more from car drivers who irrationally just want cyclists to suffer from the same inconveniences they have to deal with

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[โ€“] Huschke@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Holy shit I don't want to live where you're living. It sounds horrible.

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[โ€“] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

All you have to say is "conservative"

[โ€“] off_brand_@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

They targeted drivers. drivers

[โ€“] Gabu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think completely unprompted violence is often the answer, but I'd love to se this fucker mauled.

[โ€“] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago

Is it unprompted?

[โ€“] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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[โ€“] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Wow I have not heard of a single news item about sunak that is even relatively benign. What a tool.

[โ€“] doleo@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

fucking dreadful scumbag is going to win votes from this, too

[โ€“] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn, it's a fucking bold stance to say you're for increasing ripoff fines.

[โ€“] pdqcp@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's a ripoff fine? Google isn't helping on this one

Presumably any fine applied to a motorist. They are all unjust.

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[โ€“] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, sorry about him.

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