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Once again the conservatives were proven wrong. Let's not make the same mistake Canada, vote liberal. (youtu.be)

submitted 2 years ago by Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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We have yet another example of the conservatives having only short term gain and quick profits on their mind. Turner and the liberals were right when they said that we have been building this country east to west for a century plus, and that we should have continued doing so. And now we are seeing Turner's predictions coming true, and a conservative sold us the fuck out and took the easy way Instead of nation building.

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[+] arankays@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 years ago

Thank you for voting strategically. It would be great to see people wake the fuck up and see the NDP become the official opposition. The conservatives should be banished to the basement of parliament

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty much in the same boat but luckily my riding is a safe NDP vote so I don't have to worry about being strategic.

I am obviously hoping for Carney this time around though. I'd vote for an (evil even) inanimate carbon rod over PP. Hopefully the NDP can choose a new leader and really take off next election

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[-] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you’re voting strategically ABC, make sure that the Liberals actually have the strongest contender in your riding based on the polls.

There are a lot of NDP / Conservative battleground ridings that the Liberals will never pick up.

[-] DarkWinterNights@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

https://smartvoting.ca/

Just gonna drop this here

[-] Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I don’t trust most of these websites to give an objective answer for most people’s ridings. Better to spend a bit more time and look at the poll data and riding’s history yourself.

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[-] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

This right here

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

If for no other reasons at all I think Canadians should vote Liberal for these two stances from their 2021 platform:

0 or lower emissions by 2050

I think climate change is a much more immediate concern than most people realize, there simply is no excuse to throw the future away over lesser social concerns.

Taxing people who make more than 49k a Minimum non-deductible 15%, as a method of preventing the use of loopholes to pay 0% effective rates by the wealthiest of Canadians.

I think the 49k Canadian Dollars is a bit low for the bar to be, but if it taxes the rich then everyone below the 1% gains more from this policy than they lose.

But I'm not Canadian. Ya'll do you.

[-] funkajunk@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

there simply is no excuse to throw the future away over lesser social concerns.

You underestimate just how selfish people can be

[-] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

How selfish conservatives and gullible people can be.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago

They are also people

[-] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The one thing I wish would stay is the 66% capital gains over $250000 a year. That tax would impact the highest of income earners only but I also see the reason in scrapping that for now to spur capital investment here. Eventually we are going to have to increase the taxes on the rich but the economic growth from what we have laid out so far will spur our economy for the next year or two until we set up trade improvements for our European and South Asian allies.

We are going to be building faster then we ever could at a time like no other. Just as we had Europe's back in both world wars we will have your backs now in the face of Russian aggression and we will keep tabs on those American fascists running the country to the south of us. We will happily supply Europe with the resources it needs just as we did before. Natural gas, hydrogen, lumber, wheat, potash, aluminum, steel, lithium, cobalt, nickel, and so much more.

This is the Canadian century, and we will rise to the occasion

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago

The Cons have lied through their teeth for decades, but specifically since Mulroney. He followed Reagan around like a lapdog and did his bidding. NAFTA never should have been signed.

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Did you know the first Canada-US Free Trade agreement hinged on our election system? LPC/NDP opposed NAFTA, while PCs supported it. The FPTP election falsely rewarded the PCs, and NAFTA was enacted

[+] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the NDP kind of need to get crushed in this election so we can clear out the dead wood. We need a reborn and revitalized NDP to meet the current moment.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

I absolutely disagree with that statement.

The Liberals are going to bring more of the same. What we need is a strong coalition with both the Liberals and NDP to push the Liberals to work for the little guy for once.

I'm tired of having a party that does nothing but work for corporations, who can't think outside the box and do nothing for the working class.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

An NDP minority would keep Singh and the other softly softly types in charge, and continue to offer weak, incremental improvements instead of real, meaningful change. We need a radical, socialist left that offers real solutions if we're going to avert the rise of fascism here in Canada, and the NDP needs new faces and new ideas if they're ever going to win people over again.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

I agree with you there. The NDP needs to be more aggressive. I don't know about radical though. You don't want to scare people off either. I think it needs to be progressive. But, they definitely need a change in leadership.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

I think being afraid of scaring people off got them where they are.

Voters were overwhelmingly willing to vote for Pollievre, a man everyone detests, simply because he was a fuck you to Ottawa and the status quo.

That 'burn it down' energy has been tamped down by the threats from the south, but sooner or later it will be back (or we'll no longer be talking about Canadian elections), and when it does the NDP needs to be ready to point the molotovs at where the real blame is.

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[-] HonoredMule@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I kind of agree, but there's a substantial chance the NDP will insist on misinterpreting the results as meaning they should pull even farther to the relative center, even though it's their base they are losing.

On the other hand, the NDP implosion in NB opened the window for a stronger Green party with no more splitting of left-leaning votes. That party now more effectively represents both environmental concerns and labor. So far, that's seeming like a pretty harmonious pairing of interests, with a largely shared base.

I'm good with the NDP either shaping up or getting out of the way.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

Look, I wish I could give you an ironclad guarantee of how things will shake out, but that ain't how this shit works.

The NDP as they are now are incapable of rising to this moment. They need to be replaced by something that is. Maybe that works out, maybe it doesn't. Playing it safe has gotten us fucking nowhere. I'd rather take the swing.

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[-] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

I voted for NDP. My province voted for Conservative, so we are getting Dougie Ford in ON, again. :/

https://www.cp24.com/ontario-election-2025/

[-] ratofkryll@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

That's pretty much where I'm at as well. My riding is currently blue, and every piece of mass-mail propaganda I've gotten from the current MP has used a lot of words to say an awful lot of nothing.

I've generally voted NDP, but they need to make some leadership changes. I don't believe that the current NDP leadership would be effective in handling the overgrown toddler running the show in the US, and PP would hand us to him on a silver platter. I don't actively dislike Carney so far, so at least that's something.

[-] Warehouse@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

There might be a ghost of a chance that the Liberals win in my riding so I'm going to go for them.

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[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Vote, bring your friends to vote, post about voting and encourage everyone to fucking vote.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

If you haven't seen it.

https://youtu.be/R59JmC0u63I

[-] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

So fucking sad

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