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[-] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 134 points 2 years ago

Good of him to notice, the campaign seems to be working then. Thus carry on and continue demonstrating and boycotting people.

[-] vegeta@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Could it also be that TSLA still has a grossly inflated price at 100x forward earnings. What has it done in the last few years to deserve such a multiple? Make statements about self driving coming tomorrow, hire actors to dance in a robot helmet, and sell trucks with the doors falling off?

Hell, the price is still higher than right before Trump got elected this past November .

Nah, it’s just cAnCeL cUlTuRe

[-] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 years ago

I've always said that, how can be Tesla valued more than several worlds largest car makers combined. Car makers far more reliable and on track than bullshit Tesla.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 17 points 2 years ago

On paper, companies with a high P/E ratio can be justified by expecting their profit is going to skyrocket in the future.

You could maybe sorta argue that for Tesla a few years back. Even if you did, the Cybertruck debacle, Elon firing and unfiring the supercharger network people, and other antics of his, should convince you otherwise.

There's just no way to justify it anymore, even assuming there ever was. The fascade is gone and even if the company finds a stable footing, the stock still has a long way to drop.

[-] hex123456@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Is the supercharger network worth more than the vehicle building business? Akin to owning “the gas stations of the future”?

[-] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago

Probably. Elon fired and unfired the team for that. It's probably the best long term plan for the company. Especially since the rest of the industry is standardizing on their connector. Problem is, it's uninteresting, and Elon only likes showy displays.

Long term, businesses tend to be built on boring things. That doesn't work when your CEO likes to swing around a blinged out chainsaw on stage.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not that I’m a Tesla apologist, but keep in mind they are more than just a car company. Also in their portfolio:

  • Solar panels
  • Residential power storage (Powerwalls)
  • Commercial/utility grade power storage (Megapacks)
  • Vehicle insurance
  • SuperCharger network
  • Robotics

Granted, things like robotics are clearly mostly hype at this point, but they have sold & service Megapacks in countries including the US, Canada, and Australia. Their Supercharger network is also seen as a valuable asset given it’s really the only highly reliable nationwide one. Add to that the fact that it’s now an open standard that other EV companies are adopting, and non-Tesla EVs can now charge at many Supercharger stations, and the value of that asset can’t be understated.

I have no idea what the Tesla EV revenue is compared to all this other stuff, but it’s all likely helping boost the value one way or another…

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

Auto segment is about 80% of their revenue, with the remaining 20% being an about even split of the services and energy gen / storage segments.

With ~$100b in total revenue, the percentages are right around where the billions are per segment.

Energy gen/storage as well as services went up a bit in revenue for 2024, but auto also went down, keeping their totals about the same from 2023.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Being an insurance company is more a necessity because otherwise that low poly draft that they accidentally put on sale would be uninsurable

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Elon has likely pumped his stock price using call options. It shouldn't be worth anything near what it is.

https://www.reddit.com/r/options/comments/hk7nqe/tesla_infinity_call_gamma_squeeze/

[-] KnowledgeableNip@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 years ago

I cannot hope for traditional justice for this man so I will resign myself to waiting for a ketamine overdose.

[-] Catma@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This seems like the worst way for him to go because 100% his "fans", if you want to call them that, will say it was the deep state that killed him for getting to close to their operations. They will try to get Trump to double down on his cuts to the government and it will make things worse somehow.

Really no matter how he goes it will be due to the deep state unless he Luigi's himself

[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Deep state but not the Trump one I guess?

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

wow they don't call him genius for nothing. truly a master of deciphering the subtlety of flashing neon signs.

fucking troglodyte.

[-] GG@kbin.earth 20 points 2 years ago

Lol this guy is apparently also trying to 'go after' people who talk bad about Tesla. Get a grip homie, the people have a right to think whatever they want about whatever company that want. What's he going to do? Arrest people who post negatively about Tesla? And the guy claims he's such a pro-freedom man. Hilarious except it's tragic enough to just be sad.

[-] st3ph3n@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago

These mfs are all free speech absolutists when it is THEIR speech only.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 5 points 2 years ago

He's just a guy grown up in apartheid South Africa who wants to call people slurs

[-] jhymesba@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Not enough people realise this fact. It's not Free Speech. It's Freeze Peach, which is defined as only allowing adoration for the cult.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

Do you mean like this?

Question: What's the difference between a Tesla and an upright vacuum cleaner? Answer: The position of the dirt-bag.

Porsche: FAST . . . Ferrari: FASTER . . . . . . . Tesla: FASCIST

[-] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

What's he going to do? Arrest people who post negatively about Tesla?

Uh, yeah. That's exactly what they're going to do. Trump is already calling Tesla demonstrators terrorists and pushing for charges in that area for simple vandals.

[-] GG@kbin.earth 1 points 2 years ago

😞 man... 1984 was just 41 years too early.

Yes. Was there a question in there?

[-] antisocialite@lemmy.today 12 points 2 years ago

It'd help if you could believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They lie.

We know they are lying.

They know that they are lying.

They even know that we know they are lying.

We also know that they know we know they are lying.

They, of course, know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying. Yet they still lie.

In Russia, the lie has become not just a moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn (1918-2008) .

. In the U.S. the lie has become not just a moral category, but the pillar industry of this country. shrugs Must be all that money.

SeeMarkFly (2025)

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

If that was the only issue. Wouldn't the right (which they claim is a majority) just buy Tesla at this price point?

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah the propor methods to protest him should be to not vote for him... or vote to recall him... er... oh yeah that's right, he's got all this power and yet only is on the side line throwing money at a guy, and people he thinks will vote for a guy. So the only recourse he's left us is to go after the money he has to throw.

[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Money is speech apparently.

[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Ahhh so he does perceive us commoners

[-] jhymesba@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

...when we get in the way of his dream of total power and control.

We must keep it up then

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

He's exactly right, because the broken system allows him to wield government power with the public having no other way to hold him accountable.

[-] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Wait. Is that man wearing a cheese hat? Why is that man wearing a cheese hat?

[-] thoughtfuldragon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago
[-] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

I’m not an American. What does that have to do with anything?

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wisconsin has a lot of dairy farmers, and produces a lot of cheese. So much so that their football team's fans wear those cheese hats and are often called "cheeseheads"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheesehead

[-] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Wild. Okay, thanks for the context.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Also I've been seeing in the news that he's trying to buy an election in Wisconsin. He's giving people $1 million to vote for the person he wants, or something like that idk.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

That's called the free market, you communist pig.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Well, if it pains him: good, continue.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago

Aw look at that little hamster wheel turning... He's started to understand, but very, very slowly

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that is what is happening, thanks for noticing. How is this brainless fuckstick the richest man in the world?

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago

Yes. Problem?

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Aw, it's too bad that empathy is the downfall of Western Civilization, because I have none left for him.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

Yes, exactly.

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