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[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 366 points 1 year ago

If Harris was a leader she would be out there touring like AOC. Shes not a leader. She had her shot to prove otherwise and didn't.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago

I mean, if I were her I’d feel drained and devastated. Everything that happened during the election and people still picked Trump over her…

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 184 points 1 year ago

I have a hard time feeling sorry for her after leaving the left hanging and going after conservative votes. She made an incredibly poor strategic choice and it cost all of us.

Obviously she's not the only one to blame here, conservatives deserving the majority of blame followed by people that stayed home, but she doesn't deserve pity.

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I have a lot of problems with Kamala The Cop. But she lost what might be the final election in American History. That takes a lot out of you

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[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

If I were her, I would have had a plan B knowing what the right wingers were up to, and it should have looked a lot like what Bernie and AOC are doing. Instead she showed up then fucked off to somewhere else after hanging out with Dick Cheney for a few months.

[-] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 1 year ago

Drained and devastated but willing to lose again? Spray this turd down the drain of your empathy and out of a leadership roll.

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[-] mystik@lemmy.world 211 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only a shock to folks who still think Democrat centerists are what's gonna win the votes

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago

"We want to maintain the status quo that led to the election of Trump twice!"

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 206 points 1 year ago

I'm shocked that Harris is in first place...

[-] Liberteez@lemm.ee 67 points 1 year ago

I used to be shocked Biden was #1 in 2019. Turns out, name recognition matters more than anything else, and Harris had a historic campaign budget. (Not that it was used well, but AOC has never had that level of PR)

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 37 points 1 year ago

Not so sure about that, I knew who Cortez was years before I recognized Harris and I'm not in either of their districts.

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[-] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I'm not,

I'm genuinely skeptical that most polls are an accurate sampling of the population. Most people I know would never sit through a phone poll. Most polls reek of phishing. One of the very first phone polls said that Dewy would beat Truman in a landslide. It was completely wrong because it was predominantly rich people who had the phones to even answer the polls.

Who has the time for polls? Who drops by the candidate booths at the state fair? It's a type for sure.

The only poll I have been a part of all last year was a phone poll entirely about optometrists and eye appointments and how they should be handled in the healthcare system. I couldn't even finish it because the entire things was just... painful to go through.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 186 points 1 year ago

The fact that Kamala is even going to try to run again shows how fucked that party is.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

The fact that's she's leading in the polls is fucking crazy

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago

The worse the republicans screw up, the more the Democrats are convinced they don't need to change. I don't think Kamala is going to end up on the ticket. I think the democratic establishment is going to push Gavin Newsom and Rahm Emanuel or something dumb like that.

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[-] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 124 points 1 year ago

Why is Harris even mentioned? She should disappear like Hillary.

Nobody wants this person to run again.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago

Anyone doing a poll would be negligent not to include the previous nominee and former vice president. That's not to imply she's a good choice, only that she's an obvious choice.

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[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 96 points 1 year ago

The democratic party is cooked if it runs Kamala again. There is no way Kamala is running this high in the polls.

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[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why on earth would you run kamala again? The democrats can't afford to learn anymore lessons. School is out. Time to start producing.

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[-] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Second place to Harris??? Holy fuck we deserve our fate.

Edit: upon reading the article (I know...) AOC has the best net favorability. So a little more hopium there.

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[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

Jfc here we fuckin go again. Lemme guess DNC, this will totally be an open primary right? Anyone can win?

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 70 points 1 year ago

Fucking morons never learn.

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[-] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 61 points 1 year ago

Welcome to American politics, when the 2028 election begins in 2024 and the 2028 primary began in 2020.

I'm so tired.

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Who the fuck is thinking about 2028?!? I'm just trying to get out of 2024 alive.

[-] kibiz0r@midwest.social 47 points 1 year ago

No deets on methodology. “Of Democrats”. How many? Where? Registered Dems? Likely voters? 2024 voters?

It matters greatly. In the primaries, Obama was invisible to pollsters that were only looking at prior Dem voters. His support came mostly from first-timers and independents.

[-] burgermeister@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

I'd vote for AOC over Kamala, 100%.

I mean, I still voted for Kamala, but I wasn't excited about it.

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I hope we actually get a 2028 election

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[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Fuck Harris, we have no more time for right wing "liberals." She needs to get the fuck out of the way and progressives need to take charge

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

You guys still think there will be free elections in 2028?

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[-] NovaOG@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago

Why does the Democratic party have a hard on for running failed politicians? Kamala lost, let others step up. AOC would do great in the Dem Primaries

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[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago

If only your drmocrat handlers let you vote for who you want and not for who they choose.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 year ago

I will be shocked if the Dem establishment doesn't run Newsom and do their damndest to ratfuck AOC like they did with Bernie.

Sure, there's a lot of time between now and a theoretical 2028 presidential cycle...

But I have learned to set expectations pessimistically and be surprised in the optimism direction, not the other way around.

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[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

At this early stage when there isn't an obvious choice (like an incumbent or VP), this is really a measure of name recognition more than anything.

I don't know what the field is going to look like when the primaries roll around, but I highly doubt that Kamala will make it anywhere near the nomination again. She had her chance, she's extremely unlikely to get another one. The last time a Democrat got the nomination a second time after a loss was Adlai Stevenson in 1956, and he only got it because most of the other possible candidates stayed out of the race because they expected Eisenhower to win in a landslide.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Cory Booker talked all that time for nothing

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

I’ll take it over the other folks on Capitol Hill that are doing absolutely nothing. People need to make noise.

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

yeah, zero interest in supporting kamala "keep arming isreal" fucking harris again.

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